First Light on LRO-H5 140cm Communications Dish 16/6/2026 @ 04:45 am

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Andrew Thornett

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Jun 18, 2026, 3:26:24 AM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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Hi All,

I am currently outside with the dawn chorus (bird song at dawn), as the Milky Way is (sort of) overhead at this time of the day. I don’t normally get up at this time to do astronomy – usually dreaming away in bed – but sometimes sacrifices are needed for our hobby!

 

I have just spent last 30-45 minutes testing the new LRO-H5 radio telescope – 140cm communications dish with Discovery hydrogen line feed.

 

Firstly, it was not working at all, just like it was with the solar cooker dish – I then discovered that the computer it was on said that the SDR was connected even when it wasn’t! That does not make sense, so I changed to another mini-PC and Voila! Hydrogen peak immediately appeared. [As I was using that computer for the solar cooker dish this suggests the computer might have been the problem there – either way, my wife prefers this dish and feed when she looks out of the window to the solar cooker one and such things are VERY important.]

 

The wonderful thing about the Discovery feed is that it is so easy to adjust the focal position just by pulling the stalk up and down – no fiddly adjustments – I could do that whilst looking at computer screen to find best point. The screenshot below is from best focus point.

 

Andy

 

 

 



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Alex P

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Jun 18, 2026, 6:22:38 AM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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Hello Andrew,

In what Units are the Y-Axis Values ?
How do these compare to your other antennas ?
If the signal changes 6 dB ( doubling in linear amplitude )
    What is the corresponding change in the Y values shown ?


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Alex Pettit
 

Andrew Thornett

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Jun 18, 2026, 6:28:20 AM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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I know - as on ezRA they are just relative values and I will need to do the testing you have mentioned in past. At moment, all I wanted to get some hydrogen line data so that I confirmed that the telescope was working.

Next step is to change cover to SDR Sharp and do proper cold and hold calibration and see exactly what I am getting.

Clear from conversations with my wife that the periphery extension with mosquito netting was NOT liked wheb I out it on LRO-H2. Maybe you have a very understanding spouse - personally I have one who tolerates well my hobby but anything I can do to keep her happy is worthwhile!

I also think she nuch prefers the small Discovery feed to a cantenna or dual feed so I am probably limited with what I have got.

I have discovered that the Discovery feed is certainly a great way to find the focus point as so easy to change the length of the stalk and watch the trace on the laptop in real time.

Andy


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b alex pettit jr

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Jun 18, 2026, 6:37:35 AM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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It  is not difficult to optionally have the Y axes scaled in dB .
An extra ClickBox would allow data to be scaled in units which can be useful for Quantification of performance

suggestion : Mount the Disco Feed on your WiFi Dish and compare the numbers to the 1.5m 

Here are the performance values & measurement for proper positioning I obtained.
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Alex

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I know - as on ezRA they are just relative values and I will need to do the testing you have mentioned in past. At moment, all I wanted to get some hydrogen line data so that I confirmed that the telescope was working.

Next step is to change cover to SDR Sharp and do proper cold and hold calibration and see exactly what I am getting.


Andy



b alex pettit jr

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Jun 18, 2026, 7:05:14 AM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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I have an Idea :

If you can install the DiscoFeed on the 1m WiFi,
we 'should' be able to calibrate the Y axis units on the EZra plots.

Do you have any SMA attenuators ?
( such as )
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Get back with you this afternoon ( my afternoon )

Alex

b alex pettit jr

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Jun 18, 2026, 12:39:57 PM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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Andrew,

If you were taking data @ 3AM, you would have been acquiring data ~ RA2030.
At a Declination of  40 degrees, your data should have had two distinctive Doppler shift regions, 

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not just one  ..??

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b alex pettit jr

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Jun 18, 2026, 3:50:27 PM (4 days ago) Jun 18
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    Here's the plan :

If you can install the DiscoFeed on a 1m WiFi Dish,
we 'should' be able to calibrate the Y axis units on the ezRA plots.

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Using the same celestial coords  Dec+40  @ RA2030


Duplicate this test series and record the values from the ezRA  Relative RMS Power scale.

Setting the averaging for 30 seconds should be sufficient .. position at a spacing, wait
30-60 secs for the plot to stabilize, read the Cold_Sky and pk H Line values and write them down 

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Record these 2 measurements for spacings of 24 to 40 cm in 2 cm steps.  &  REPEAT

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Send the results & I'll try to determine a scaling factor and conversion to dB.

Alex








Stephen Arbogast

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Jun 18, 2026, 8:51:18 PM (3 days ago) Jun 18
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Andrew, congratulations on  success, looks very cool.  My  Discovery Dish is not as large as yours... just  the minimum needed.   I  am very happy with it...   not  calibrated  using ezRA.   I'm  expecting my  Discovery  Drive sometime this  late summer so  I can try   SDRAngel  with  some hot/cold  calibration curves.  

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Jun 18, 2026, 9:21:08 PM (3 days ago) Jun 18
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I don’t know yet what maximum is but it is now 02:20 BST (01:20 UTC) on 19/6/2026 & plot is looking very impressive as per below =

 

 

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Andrew, congratulations on  success, looks very cool.  My  Discovery Dish is not as large as yours... just  the minimum needed.   I  am very happy with it...   not  calibrated  using ezRA.   I'm  expecting my  Discovery  Drive sometime this  late summer so  I can try   SDRAngel  with  some hot/cold  calibration curves.  

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b alex pettit jr

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Jun 18, 2026, 10:04:22 PM (3 days ago) Jun 18
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Realize the X scale is in Red Shift Velocity ( & 'backwards' from Freq ) 
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That narrow sharp peak in the spectra below is .. 'unusual'  .....

Alex 
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b alex pettit jr

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Jun 18, 2026, 10:18:06 PM (3 days ago) Jun 18
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Andrew,

Do you have a plot like this from ~ 6 hrs ago, @ RA 12:00 ?

Alex
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b alex pettit jr

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Jun 19, 2026, 5:09:58 AM (3 days ago) Jun 19
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Dec +40 Deg
RA  12:30 Hrs

( ~ 19:00 - 20:00 Local Time )
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If  you do not get a nearly flat line around this sky region, the system has a problem

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Plot from one of my antennas
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-ap




b alex pettit jr

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Jun 19, 2026, 6:18:16 AM (3 days ago) Jun 19
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DEC +40
RA 11:30 - 12:30
System : Pettit  1m Circular Patch Feed Disk Yagi Enhanced Rel


HLine Signal 1.2K above Cold_Sky !
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-ap


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Dec +40 Deg
RA  12:30 Hrs

( ~ 19:00 - 20:00 Local Time )
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If  you do not get a nearly flat line around this sky region, the system has a problem

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-ap



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