It succeeded in detecting 21cm signals from our Milky Way!
I hope you will find it interesting!
S. Asayama
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Hi Asayama,
You should install the LNA at the Feed. The coax will greatly degrade the performance. Your signal level may double or triple .
And the antenna will perform better with a deeper cake pan than the lid as it acts as a shield to 290K ground noise RF
Alex
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Dear Alex,
Thank you for getting in touch with me! Yes, indeed, my telescope performance is not optimised. This demonstration intends to show how easily carry out radio observations with the items at hand. Such simple home-built radio telescopes would be useful for outreach and education for kids.
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Move the LNA to the feed and re-test.
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Those noise spikes are from your PC .. move it Away from the antenna
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Hi Shin'ichiro,
That's a clever idea to use the headband !!!
Cheers
Steve Olney
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Thank you for your interest. I was looking for a way for children to enjoy handmade radio telescope exercises without special skills and tools. I hope that school teachers will find it useful for outreach and education.
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Hello Asayama Shin'ichiro,
Yes it is a very simple implementation of the umbrella antenna, and seems to work fine.
As previously suggested,
1) try moving the LNA to the loop feed connector to increase efficiency
2) and moving the PC further away to reduce RFI
Please post another plot of the results ..
Best Regards,
Alex P
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Dear Alex P,
I had time after work today to make your suggestion. Here attached is a photo of the new observation setup and HI spectrum.
The signal level increased as you mentioned, as well as less RFI. Thank you again for your valuable suggestions.
S. Asayama
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Hello Asayama Shin'ichiro,
At microwave frequencies, seemingly insignificant changes can have a Huge Effect !
Please post a large photo of the spectral plot.
You will also obtain improved performance if you point the antenna more overhead .