In Which Horn Did Wow! Enter? - help needed

[SO6AGJ]

Dear Members of the Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers,

I am a Polish national, currently based in Poland, a pianist, software developer and a radio amateur and I am writing to you to ask for help in mathematical calculations related to the WOW! signal received in 1977.

When I was a child I experienced an UFO contact and to this very day I am not sure whether this is related to the WOW! signal. Please find details on my website (links below).

I seek help in doing the math related to two locations, where the signal might have been received. This can potentially solve the problem of which horn of the Big Ear radio telescope received the signal in 1977.

The event is described here:

http://so6agj.epizy.com/?wow-poland&lang=en

The location of the event is here:

http://so6agj.epizy.com/wow

If my experience is related to the WOW! signal, calculating which horn received the signal in Ohio may become possible.

I look forward to hearing from you

Jakub Markowski

phone: +48 793 743 092

http://so6agj.epizy.com
http://jakubmarkowski.pl

[Ethan Waldo]

Wow! came from a comet that hadn’t been discovered at the time.

 

https://phys.org/news/2017-06-wow-mystery-space.html

 

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[SO6AGJ so6agj]

Hi Ethan,

Thanks for your message. If you are interested in reading my story, the link is in my initial message.

I hope to find someone to help me with calculations related to the Big Ear radio telescope (in 1977)

and my parent's location in Poland.

Regards,

Jakub SO6AGJ

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[Marko Cebokli]

Hello!

I remember seeing a calculation (by Paul Schuh?), that WOW was so
strong, it would be detectable with (3m class) amateur equipment. Does
that mean amateurs can detect some comets at 21cm?

The article linked below is from 2016. The author was planning to repeat
the detection of that comet in 2017, also with a 3m dish. Did he
succeed? Any follow up papers?

If not, that comet is probably a dead hypothesis.

Marko Cebokli

On 28.06.2022 19:59, Ethan Waldo wrote:
> Wow! came from a comet that hadn’t been discovered at the time.
>
> https://phys.org/news/2017-06-wow-mystery-space.html
>

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> Dear Members of the Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers,
>
> I am a Polish national, currently based in Poland, a pianist, software
> developer and a radio amateur and I am writing to you to ask for help
> in mathematical calculations related to the WOW! signal received in
> 1977.
>
> When I was a child I experienced an UFO contact and to this very day I
> am not sure whether this is related to the WOW! signal. Please find
> details on my website (links below).
>
> I seek help in doing the math related to two locations, where the
> signal might have been received. This can potentially solve the
> problem of which horn of the Big Ear radio telescope received the
> signal in 1977.
>
> The event is described here:
>

> http://so6agj.epizy.com/?wow-poland&lang=en [2]

>
> The location of the event is here:
>

> http://so6agj.epizy.com/wow [3]

>
> If my experience is related to the WOW! signal, calculating which horn
> received the signal in Ohio may become possible.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you
>
> Jakub Markowski
>
> phone: +48 793 743 092
>

> http://so6agj.epizy.com [4]
> http://jakubmarkowski.pl [5]

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[SO6AGJ so6agj]

Hi Marko,

I am seeking help in doing the math related to the Big Ear radio telescope - there is a memorial website http://bigear.org

with plenty of information about the antenna and the receiver. What I am particularly interested in is the direction of the signal.

I gathered info regarding my experience and the only thing I need is someone fluent in mathematics to help me with my way of thinking.

I have the basics already done, however ideally I need someone good at math and physics (radio astronomy).

Regards

Jakub SO6AGJ

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[fasleitung3]

I looked at this comet hypothesis a few years back. I came the
conclusion that:

The two potiential positons of the WOW detections are too far off the
trajectory of the comet. The difference is about 1 degree in
declination, see fig. 9 of the paper by Antonio Paris who published
this comet idea. The accuracy of the declination as determined by the
resolution of the big ear telescope is 20 arc minutes (see Gray &
Marvel, APJ564, 1171 (2001); can be found at
http://www.bigear.org/Gray-Marvel.pdf

I could not find any scientific papaer which describes a transient
strong narrowband signal at 1420 MHz coming from any comet.

While the origin of the WOW signal remains unknown, it is certainly not
coming from a comet. This story is dead from the start.
Cheers,
Wolfgang

[Richard Marsden]

Seth Shostak doesn't/didn't think the comet hypothesis held up either:

https://www.seti.org/was-it-et-line-or-just-comet


Richard Marsden

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[SO6AGJ]

to this day I have not heard from anybody interested in helping me with calculations related to my question.

are you people interested in this topic or not? is there anybody interested in the Big Ear radio telescope from 1977?

[StricklySpeaking]

Here is a document prepared by John D Kraus:

https://www.nrao.edu/archives/files/original/2ec6ba346ab16e10a10d09462507beda.pdf

In this document is gives a lot of detail and indicates it is not know which of the two horns was used. If anyone could figure this out Dr. Kraus would have been the one.

He also mentions others capturing the signal. More parers on the topic are mentioned.

I have a copy of the book Radio Astronomy 2nd Edition by John D Kraus (1). I looked through the book and did not see any information on the WOW signal. Frome the letter it seems like Dr. Kraus was not that impressed with the signal as this did not come up until many years later.  You may look at the radio Astronomy related meetings of 1993 for more info.

There is a signal graph in the letter from Dr. Kraus showing the squint angle of the horn used to capture the signal. According to the data the dish was stationary most of the time.  From this information and other data on horn characterization you could determine which horn was used.  There is a lot of data and notes in his book I would not be surprised to hear the info you want is in the book.

From my read at the time Dr. Kraus felt the signal source was out beyound the moons orbit.

(1)

Radio Astronomy 2nd Edition

John D. Kraus

ISBN I-882484-00-2

Publisher address:

Cygnus-Quassar Books

P. O. Box 353

Durham, N.H.  03824

I purchased my copy direct from publisher circa 2013. I believe Dr. Kraus son is involved with publishing this book and maintains the copyright.

Bob Stricklin N5BRG

[Celia Loflin]

I think it's safe to say if you haven't gotten the response you were expecting those people aren't as interested as you are.

Good luck with your investigations.

Celia

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[SO6AGJ]

The 45th anniversary of the Wow! signal - is there anybody interested in the Big Ear and how the signal was received?

[bsn...@gmail.com]

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

Seems a sensible answer after all these years of speculation.