Can one write Sanskrit Sentence in any order?

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kenp

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May 30, 2022, 9:03:28 PM5/30/22
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संस्कृतवाक्यं केनचित् क्रमेण लिखितुं शक्यते वा ?
One may compare Blog's Sanskrit translation in Hindi (or in English) with given reverse translation of Hindi to Sanskrit translation.
Is reverse translation In Sanskrit grammatically correct?
https://translate.google.com/?sl=hi&tl=sa&text=%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%B2%20%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%B0%20%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B0%20%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A5%A4%20%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%2C%20%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B9%20%E0%A4%AD%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%96%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%87%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A3%20%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81-%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81%20%E0%A4%98%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%AE%20%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A5%A4%0A%0A%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%20%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%87%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%88%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%20%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BE%E0%A5%A4%20%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%20%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%95%2C%20%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%87%20%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BC%20%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BC%E0%A5%80%20%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AB%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%80%E0%A5%A4%0A%0A%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%87%20%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B0%20%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A5%A4%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%9B%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%B0%20%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%20%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%B0%20%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%87%E0%A5%A4%0A%0A%E0%A4%87%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%B2%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%8F%2C%20%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%9B%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%BE%E0%A5%A4%20%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%AC%20%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%A7%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%9A%20%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%2C%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A5%8B%20%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%B8%20%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AB%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B9%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE%2C%20%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A5%A4&op=translate

Arjuna S R

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Jun 1, 2022, 5:05:38 AM6/1/22
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केन् महोदय,
नमांसि।

एतत्पत्रे संस्कृतभाषायाः मुक्त-क्रम-विषये चर्चितमस्ति - https://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/faculty/amba/PUBLICATIONS/papers/sktsynOffprintAKulkarnietal.pdf

Prof Amba Kulkarni will be giving a lecture on this topic in Paris in this week or next. Registration is free and link is https://www.ephe.psl.eu/agenda/linguistique-informatique-du-sanskrit-et-la-tradition-grammaticale-indienne

धन्यवादाः
अर्जुनः
बेङ्गळूरु-नगरम्

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Arjuna S R

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Jun 1, 2022, 5:22:51 AM6/1/22
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केन् महोदय,
पुनर्नमांसि।

प्रति-अनुवादस्तु समीचीन एव अस्ति। व्याकरणदोषाः अपि बहुशः नास्त्येव । किन्तु कानिचन पदानि मूलात् व्यत्यस्तानि सन्ति। भाव-अधिगमने क्लेशः कोsपि न स्यादपि। किन्तु कतिपय-वर्षेभ्य अनन्तरं मूल-प्रत्यनुवादयोर्मध्ये कथं वा निर्णयः कर्तुं शक्यते मूलं किमिति। तत्र काsपि व्यवस्था अस्ति वा इति मम जिज्ञासा वर्तते।

- अर्जुनः

On Tue, 31 May 2022, 06:33 kenp, <drk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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kenp

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Jun 1, 2022, 11:32:04 PM6/1/22
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Arjun ji,

Here is your post .....
Sanskrit to English
Mr. Ken,
Punarnamansi.
The counter-translation is accurate. There are often no grammar errors. But some of the steps have been deviated from the original. There may be no trouble in acquiring emotion. But after a few years, how can a decision be made between the original and the retranslation as to what is the original? I wonder if there is any arrangement there.
English to Sanskrit
केन महोदय, ९.
पुनर्नामांसि ।
प्रति-अनुवादः समीचीनः । प्रायः व्याकरणदोषाः न भवन्ति । किन्तु केचन पदानि मूलात् व्यभिचारितानि सन्ति। भावार्जने कष्टं न स्यात् । किन्तु कतिपयवर्षेभ्यः परं मूलस्य पुनः अनुवादस्य च मध्ये कथं निर्णयः क्रियते यत् मूलं किम् इति ? तत्र किमपि व्यवस्था अस्ति वा इति चिन्तयामि।
As long as translated in Sanskrit text's grammar is correct Sanskrit can be learned both way. Originality in translation may get lost in any Indic language not just in Sanskrit. Newly added Google Translation of Sanskrit may challenge  Sanskrit scholars who were traditionally providing Vedic knowledge to westerners in English via translation and transliteration but not the same way to fellow Indians who protect languages and culture in Indic scripts. Sanskrit scholars need to improve this tool through feedbacks. 

One may try to read this website in Indic scripts via transliteration and translation tools attached in the browser . 
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