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uwais alqarni

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Jul 2, 2007, 11:03:13 AM7/2/07
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Rain in the Qur'an
 
Rain is indeed one of the most important factors for life on the earth. Rain is a prerequisite for the permanence of life in a region. Rain, which carries great importance for all living things including human beings, is mentioned in various verses of the Qur'an where substantial information is given about the formation of rain, its proportion and effects. The fact that it was not possible for any of this information to have been discovered at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an shows us that the Qur'an is the word of Allah.

Now, let us examine the information given in the Qur'an about rain.

The Proportion of Rain

In the eleventh verse of Surat az-Zukhruf, rain is defined as water sent down in due measure. The verse is as follows:
"And He who sends down (from time to time) water from the sky in due measure, and We raise to life therewith a land that is dead. Even so will you be raised (from the dead)". (Surat az - Zukhruf, 11)
This "measure" mentioned in the verse has to do with a couple of characteristics of rain. First of all, the amount of rain that falls on the earth is always the same. It is estimated that in one second, 16 million tones of water evaporates from the earth. This number is equal to the amount of water that drops on the earth in one second. This means that water continuously circulates in a balanced cycle according to a "measure". Another measure related with rain is about its falling speed. The minimum altitude of rain clouds is 1200 meters.
 
 When dropped from this height, an object having the same weight and size as a rain drop, would continuously accelerate and fall on the ground with a speed of 558 km/h. Certainly, any object that hits the ground with that speed would cause big damage. If rain happened to fall in the same way, all harvested lands would be destroyed, residential areas, houses, and cars would be damaged, people would not be able to walk around without taking necessary precautions. What is more, these calculations are made just for clouds of 1200 meters high, whereas there are also rain clouds at an altitude of 10.000 meters. A rain drop falling from such a height could normally reach a very destructive speed.

But this is not how it works; no matter from how high they fall, average speed of rain drops is only 8-10 km/h when they reach the ground. The reason for this is the special form they take. This special form increases the friction effect of the atmosphere and prevents acceleration when the rain drops reach a certain speed "limit". (Today parachutes are designed by using this technique.)

This is not all about the "measures" of rain. For instance, in the atmospheric layers where it starts to rain, the temperature may fall so low as 400 C degrees. Despite this, rain drops never turn into ice particles. (This would certainly mean a fatal threat for the living things on the earth).

The reason is that the water in the atmosphere is pure water. As known, pure water hardly freezes even in very low temperatures.

The Formation of Rain

How rain forms remained a great mystery for people for a long time. Only after air radar were discovered, could it have been possible to learn by which stages rain formed.

The formation of rain takes place in three stages: First, the "raw material" of rain rises up in the air. Later, clouds are formed and lastly, rain drops appear.

These stages are clearly defined in the Qur'an in which precise information was given about the formation of rain centuries in advance; "It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until you see rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice!"

Now, let us look at the three stages mentioned in the verse;

1st Stage : "It is Allah Who sends the winds..."
Countless air bubbles formed by the foaming in the oceans continuously burst and cause water particles to be ejected towards the sky. These particles which are rich in salt, are then carried away by winds and move upwards in the atmosphere. These particles which are called aerosols form clouds by collecting around themselves the water vapour - that again ascends from the seas - as tiny drops, by a mechanism called "water trap"

2nd Stage : " ... and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments ...."
The clouds form from the water vapour that condenses around the salt crystals or the dust particles in the air. Because the water drops in these are very small (with a diameter between 0.01 and 0.02 mm), the clouds are suspended in the air and they spread in the sky. Thus the sky is covered with clouds.

3rd Stage : ".... until you see rain-drops issue from the midst thereof."
Water particles that surround salt crystals and dust particles thicken and form rain drops. So, the drops which become heavier than air depart from the clouds, and start to fall on the ground as rain.

The conclusion to be arrived here is that; Every stage in the formation of rain is told in the verses of the Qur'an. Furthermore, these stages are explained in the order they take place... Just like in many other natural phenomena in the world, it is again the Qur'an that provides the most correct explanation about this phenomena as well, and more, that has announced these facts to people centuries before they were discovered by science.

Life Given to a Dead Land

In the Qur'an, a lot of verses call our attention to a particular function of rain, which is "giving life to a dead land". It is stated in a verse as
".... We send down pure water from the sky. That with it We may give life to a dead land, and slake the thirst of things We have created,- cattle and men in great numbers". (Surat al-Furqan, 48- 49)
In addition to furnishing the earth with water, rain also has a fertilisation effect.

Rain drops that reach the clouds after being evaporated from the seas, contain certain substances "that will give life" to a dead land. These "life-giving" drops are called "surface tension drops". Surface tension drops form on the top level of the sea surface which is called the micro layer by biologists. In this layer, which is thinner than one tenth of a millimetre, there are many organic leftovers caused from the pollution of microscopic algaes and zooplanktons. Some of these leftovers select and collect within themselves some elements which are very rare in sea water such as phosphorus, magnesium, potassium and some heavy metals like copper, zinc, cobalt and lead.

These "fertiliser" laden drops are lifted up into the sky by the winds and after a while they drop on the ground inside the rain drops. Seeds and plants on the earth find numerous metallic salts and elements essential for their growth here in these rain drops. This event is informed in another verse of the Qur'an as follows:
"And We send down from the sky rain chartered with blessing, and We produce therewith gardens and grain for harvests." (Surah Qaf, 9)
Salts that fall with rain are small examples of some fertilisers (calcium, magnesium, potassium etc.) used for increasing fertility. The heavy metals found in these types of aerosols, on the other hand, are other elements that increase fertility in the development and production of plants.

Forests also develop and are fed with the help of these sea-originated aerosols. In this way, 150 million tons of fertiliser falls on the total surface of lands every year. If there was not a natural fertilisation like this, there would be very little vegetation on the earth, and the ecological balance would be damaged.

What is more interesting is that this truth, which could only be discovered by modern science, was informed by Allah in the Qur'an centuries ago.
 


Ma'salaam
Nazia Shaheen
~All⨠has promised to the believers men and women,Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn. But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of All⨾(9:72)
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El Jefe

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Jul 3, 2007, 9:22:02 AM7/3/07
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Uwais..

I am very sure that you and that stupid author of the scientific
findings in quran about rain is as unqualified about science as the
chimp that could draw with watercolors in the zoo. Are you so dum to
think that the masses here do not know about science???

Mohemeddans around the world get a big BIG COCKSTAND if they stumble
across something as vaguely similar ( even if it was the opposite side
of the coin) on current discoveries. Mohemeddans are like children
whocrave for candy sugar rush, often BIG LIARS themselves. Let me
educate you about what rain is from a scientific view. A complement of
a close pal of mine who is actually a scientist by the name of
Radagast. He studied your stupid Mohemeddan article and had a good 2
hour laugh analyzing the stupidest of the mohemmedan lot.( which is
you and and that idiotic author of yours).

READ AND LEARN ABOUT SCIENCE MORON.

Article wrote:
This "measure" mentioned in the verse has to do with a couple of
characteristics of rain. First of all, the amount of rain that falls
on the
earth is always the same. It is estimated that in one second, 16
million
tones of water evaporates from the earth. This number is equal to the
amount
of water that drops on the earth in one second. This means that water
continuously circulates in a balanced cycle according to a "measure".
Another measure related with rain is about its falling speed. The
minimum
altitude of rain clouds is 1200 meters.

Complete crap. The author has ignored all the highly contentious and
current issues about global warming. If he had at least some knowledge
on science he would know that his assertions are bunkum from at least
these angles:

1. The amount of evaporation is related to the surface temperature on
Earth. This temperature fluctuates quite significantly ... giving us
periods of warmth (interglacial periods) and ice ages.

2. The Sun's output is variable. It comes in a small cycle of about 11
years and a great cycle lasting thousands of years. Solar forcing is a
great contributor to Global Warming. Periods of pronounced Sunspots
produce greater radiation, which equates to greater Earth surface
temperature, leading to more rain.

3. The Earth's orbital tilt changes. Earth's obliquity changes from
22.1° to 24.5°. This changes the seasons from a relatively mild winter
and summer to a more exaggerated warming summer and colder winter. The
evaporation rate therefore changes accordingly.

4. Earth's orbit moves in a 100,000 year cycle from an near circular
one to an elliptical one. This changes the distance to the Sun and
hence changes the temperature and evaporation rates.

Quote:


This is not all about the "measures" of rain. For instance, in the
atmospheric layers where it starts to rain, the temperature may fall
so low
as 400 C degrees. Despite this, rain drops never turn into ice
particles.
(This would certainly mean a fatal threat for the living things on the
earth).

Baloney. Atmospheric ice particles are formed from rain drops all the
time. In some circumstances, they are called hail, and in others they
are merely snow and ice.

Quote:


The reason is that the water in the atmosphere is pure water. As
known, pure water hardly freezes even in very low temperatures.

This is the biggest baloney so far. Pure water freezes at exactly 0C
(at 1 atmosphere). If anything were to lower freezing point of water,
it is impurities.

Quote:


How rain forms remained a great mystery for people for a long time.
Only
after air radar were discovered, could it have been possible to learn
by
which stages rain formed.

The Greeks, especially Aristotle, already knew about the water cycle.
Long before the advent of radar. (What the fuck is an "air radar"?)

Quote:
*1st Stage :** "It is Allah Who sends the winds..."*


Countless air bubbles formed by the foaming in the oceans continuously
burst and cause water particles to be ejected towards the sky.

Baloney. Sea spray is too heavy to make it into the atmosphere.

This is completely wrong since water vapor is primarily caused by
evaporation. When water evaporates, it is in gaseous and not
particulate form.

Quote:


The conclusion to be arrived here is that; Every stage in the
formation of rain is told in the verses of the Qur'an.

Then ... the Quran is scientifically in error.

Quote:


Salts that fall with rain are small examples of some fertilisers
(calcium, magnesium, potassium etc.) used for increasing fertility.

Utter baloney. There isn't enough salts in rain to increase soil
fertility. That is why many places on Earth, whilst having plenty of
rain, are infertile.

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mohemmedan piglets need to digest and get over with.

uwais alqarni

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Jul 4, 2007, 12:55:09 PM7/4/07
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at least the scientist prove something rather than you prove nothing..only coward statement to proud off

El Jefe

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Jul 4, 2007, 8:41:21 PM7/4/07
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Hello? Knock! Knock!~ on your head... your stupid scientist didnt
prove anything.. all is baloney from the beginning.. read that article
again and then comment. There is no science in your silly book
friend...

So far.. i havent seen a christian toting his bible to the world
saying it is a scientific book.. nor a hindu with his bhagavad gita
saying it is a scientific book or a sikh with his Guru Granth
Sahib .... saying it is a scientific.. only you mohemeddan piglets are
running around with a massive erection and screaming all science in
the korand.. when in actual fact.. THERE IS NONE.

Just prove to me ONE line from that book that water freezes at the
sub temperatures of 0 degrees... ( in the sky)..

On Jul 5, 12:55 am, "uwais alqarni" <awezalqa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> at least the scientist prove something rather than you prove nothing..only
> coward statement to proud off
>

El Jefe

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Jul 4, 2007, 8:50:05 PM7/4/07
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piscohot wrote,

This is from harun Yahya. The same guy who claimed that the seven
layers of heaven are the 7 layers of atmosphere!!

If muslims can believe his crap on the 7 layers of heaven, they'd
believe anything this guy rolls out as long as it made Islam sound
good.
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El Jefe

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Jul 4, 2007, 8:56:49 PM7/4/07
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EX MUSLIMAH wrote,

I was reading it and thought wahhhhh? the only thing which can go
beyond freezing is Alcohol and/or spirits (which has a alcoholic base)
I am a chemist and I have done ice stuff, ever heard of triple point?
that's the only time it can be 3 things at one!

Triple point of water

The single combination of pressure and temperature at which pure
water, pure ice, and pure water vapour can coexist in a stable
equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 kelvins (0.01 °C) and a pressure
of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373057 atm). At that
point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or
vapor by making infinitesimally small changes in pressure and
temperature. Strictly speaking, the surfaces separating the different
phases should also be perfectly flat, to avoid the effects of surface
tensions.

Water has an unusual and complex phase diagram, although this does not
affect general comments about the triple point. At high temperatures,
increasing pressure results first in liquid and then solid water.
(Above around 109 Pa a crystalline form of ice forms that is denser
than water.) At lower temperatures under compression, the liquid state
ceases to appear, and water passes directly from gas to solid.

At constant pressures above the triple point, heating ice causes it to
pass from solid to liquid to gas, or steam, also known as water vapor.
At pressures below the triple point, such as those that occur in outer
space, where the pressure is near zero, liquid water cannot exist. In
a process known as sublimation, ice skips the liquid stage and becomes
steam when heated.

>From Wikipedia
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gnh

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:41:54 PM7/4/07
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El Jefe

You got 7 thick layers of THICK SKULL ?

They are CORRECT !

NO water NO life ! No Water NO BRAIN !
They come from DESERT place, very DRY ...


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gnh

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:44:07 PM7/4/07
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A lot of MIRACLES happening now ....

Even Brainless can bomb cyberspace, even headless can see, even earless can
hear, even SOULLESS can go to heaven .........

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krishna

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Jul 5, 2007, 3:33:30 AM7/5/07
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dont be in a hurry el jefe. there are clowns among hindus in india propagating 'HINDU SCIENCE" this is another piece of rubbish. science is science. hindu science i hogwash.

El Jefe <blade...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello? Knock! Knock!~ on your head... your stupid scientist didnt
prove anything.. all is baloney from the beginning.. read that article
again and then comment. There is no science in your silly book
friend...

So far.. i havent seen a christian toting his bible to the world
saying it is a scientific book.. nor a hindu with his bhagavad gita
saying it is a scientific book or a sikh with his Guru Granth
Sahib .... saying it is a scientific.. only you mohemeddan piglets are
running around with a massive erection and screaming all science in
the korand.. when in actual fact.. THERE IS NONE.

Just prove to me ONE line from that book that water freezes at the
sub temperatures of 0 degrees... ( in the sky)..





On Jul 5, 12:55 am, "uwais alqarni" wrote:
> at least the scientist prove something rather than you prove nothing..only
> coward statement to proud off
>
> > 22.1?to 24.5? This changes the seasons from a relatively mild winter

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