PCI- PCI Express Template

Khan, Sami

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Oct 3, 2011, 5:26:50 PM10/3/11

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Hi All,

Is there a PCI Express Board Layout and Schematic to represent the Edge connector available anywhere? I Found a bunch of PCI card templates but no PCIe cards.

Sami Khan

Electrical Engineer 2, Development

Illumina Inc.

9885 Towne Centre Drive

San Diego, CA 92121 USA

Work: 858.882.6774

email: sk...@illumina.com

website: www.illumina.com

Sam Sattel

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Oct 3, 2011, 5:41:02 PM10/3/11

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Hello Sami,

All the PCIe cards are available in the Shanghai Vault. Which one are you looking for:

Samuel P. Sattel, CID
Field Application Engineer
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Khan, Sami

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Oct 3, 2011, 5:55:29 PM10/3/11

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HI Sam,

Where exactly would I get the Shanghai Vault, Is that an update. I need PCI_Epress_x4 and x8 and x16 and x1. Can you send me these PCB templates with the Schematic symbols. That would greatly help, Thanks

Sami Khan

Electrical Engineer 2, Development

Illumina Inc.

9885 Towne Centre Drive

San Diego, CA 92121 USA

Work: 858.882.6774

email: sk...@illumina.com

website: www.illumina.com

Brooks, Bill

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Oct 3, 2011, 6:04:05 PM10/3/11

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Hi guys,

I would like to discuss outsourcing and it’s ‘plusses and minuses’ with the group…

Perhaps someone can give me the benefit of their experiences with this?

What do you need to know before hiring a subcontracting designer or design company to do your PCB designs for you?

Leslie Gomez

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Oct 3, 2011, 6:54:01 PM10/3/11

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Bill,

Nobody will ever be as good as us. Sometimes we do not have the bandwidth to do it all ourselves.

I have had success with some of the design companies that I have used that are locally based. Knowing that the pcb designer will be focused on your project and not 10 others is helpful. References for a service bureau are definately a must. Getting your purchasing people to work with the company that you are outsourcing to helps keep them motivated.

No language barriers. Keep the contractor in the same time zone. Have them sign an NDA.

Leslie

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Sent: Mon, October 3, 2011 3:04:05 PM
Subject: Outsourcing PCB design Guidlines

Hi guys,

I would like to discuss outsourcing and it’s ‘plusses and minuses’ with the group…

Perhaps someone can give me the benefit of their experiences with this?

What do you need to know before hiring a subcontracting designer or design company to do your PCB designs for you?

Bill Brooks | Datron World Communications, Inc.

PCB Designer/Engineer | Office: 760-602-7004 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 760-602-7004 end_of_the_skype_highlighting| Fax: 760-597-3777 | wbr...@dtwc.com
3055 Enterprise Court , Vista , CA 92081 | www.dtwc.com

Leslie Gomez

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Oct 3, 2011, 7:09:10 PM10/3/11

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Bill,

One other thought about the database library... You may want to have a filtered library so you are not letting out the entire company mrp. We filter ours with an export attribute so our high end part information stays here within KVD.

Leslie

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Sent: Mon, October 3, 2011 3:04:05 PM
Subject: Outsourcing PCB design Guidlines

Hi guys,

I would like to discuss outsourcing and it’s ‘plusses and minuses’ with the group…

Perhaps someone can give me the benefit of their experiences with this?

What do you need to know before hiring a subcontracting designer or design company to do your PCB designs for you?

Bill Brooks | Datron World Communications, Inc.

PCB Designer/Engineer | Office: 760-602-7004| Fax: 760-597-3777 | wbr...@dtwc.com

3055 Enterprise Court , Vista , CA 92081 | www.dtwc.com

Brooks, Bill

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Oct 3, 2011, 7:12:56 PM10/3/11

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Thanks Leslie… good points!

Bill Brooks | Datron World Communications, Inc.

PCB Designer/Engineer | Office: 760-602-7004| Fax: 760-597-3777 | wbr...@dtwc.com

3055 Enterprise Court, Vista, CA 92081 | www.dtwc.com

Performance You Require. Value You Expect^TM

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Brooks, Bill

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Oct 3, 2011, 7:19:12 PM10/3/11

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I have had some experience with ‘subbing out’ work to a PCB Design Service Bureau… including working at one myself before too…

I have seen the use of checklists to help document and define the design criteria… let’s say things like critical lines, mechanical constraints, mechanical hardware, sockets, location of connectors, indicators, displays, etc… limits on layer count, or preferred stack-ups, copper weights, or electrical criteria like worst case amps, volts, line lengths, sensitive circuits heat issues to expect… stuff like that. Does anyone use a formal method like that?

Leslie Gomez

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Oct 3, 2011, 7:42:55 PM10/3/11

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The last pcb that was outsourced here had a template file that defined much of that.

One of the advantages of high end cad tools with complete constraint editors.

I guess with altium, you will need to either give them design rules that have that already written in, or get out your pencil and paper.

Leslie

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Sent: Mon, October 3, 2011 4:19:12 PM

Subject: RE: Outsourcing PCB design Guidlines

I have had some experience with ‘subbing out’ work to a PCB Design Service Bureau… including working at one myself before too…

I have seen the use of checklists to help document and define the design criteria… let’s say things like critical lines, mechanical constraints, mechanical hardware, sockets, location of connectors, indicators, displays, etc… limits on layer count, or preferred stack-ups, copper weights, or electrical criteria like worst case amps, volts, line lengths, sensitive circuits heat issues to expect… stuff like that. Does anyone use a formal method like that?

Bill Brooks | Datron World Communications, Inc.

PCB Designer/Engineer | Office: 760-602-7004| Fax: 760-597-3777 | wbr...@dtwc.com

3055 Enterprise Court , Vista , CA 92081 | www.dtwc.com

Performance You Require. Value You Expect^TM

From: sandiegoalti...@googlegroups.com [mailto:sandiegoalti...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brooks, Bill
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Outsourcing PCB design Guidlines

Thanks Leslie… good points!

Bill Brooks | Datron World Communications, Inc.

PCB Designer/Engineer | Office: 760-602-7004| Fax: 760-597-3777 | wbr...@dtwc.com