Compassion: A riddle from Master

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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 17, 2012, 8:01:29 AM9/17/12
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Dear friends,

This is a riddle from the Master and really difficult for me. Could you please help me a way out.


Suppose two people come to a hospital.
One is suffering from starvation, the other is ill from overeating.
What type of compassion should the doctor have towards each of them?
This is a riddle for you to solve!


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Esha Raman

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Sep 19, 2012, 5:47:54 AM9/19/12
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i think the doc shud hav same compassion for both as both r in imbalance

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Manish Agarwal

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Sep 19, 2012, 6:09:41 AM9/19/12
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esha best response...

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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 19, 2012, 6:25:53 AM9/19/12
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thanks esha!!

But what type of compassion (although same) ?

I don't know whether this "type of compassion" really mean anything.

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Manish Agarwal

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Sep 19, 2012, 7:20:50 AM9/19/12
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nitin I think this means lot because u need to have empathy and need to be prejudice..

Manish

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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 19, 2012, 7:48:43 AM9/19/12
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sorry i still didn't get what "type" of compassion in doctor's case.

Manish Agarwal

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Sep 19, 2012, 7:52:28 AM9/19/12
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sorry no prejudice... rest expert can answer

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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 19, 2012, 8:02:00 AM9/19/12
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I must be an idiot asking this.

but still struggling....

ok i need to have empathy but why don't you tell me what "type" of compassion in doctor's case.

I mean i don't feel the same way if i see a person dying out of hunger and other overeating...

Esha Raman

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Sep 21, 2012, 12:31:10 PM9/21/12
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sorry for the late rply.......ya normally der cums a little difference,we feel more sorry for d person whos dying out of hunger......bt u askd wat it shud b.......n abt wat type....i dnt knw......maybe sympathy for thier state n the compassion a doc shud hav toward d welfare n good treatment of evry patient.....odrwise i dnt knw
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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 21, 2012, 12:52:21 PM9/21/12
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thanks Esha for reply!

For me also there comes a difference. I think question is not from the point of view of doctor but from ourselves.
I feel the same way "sorry" for the person dying out of hunger but not for person overeating. I would probably feel some anger on him and say "What kind of an idiot you are? Can't you see you are ill?"
Regarding "type", I was wondering whether there is a "type" for compassion also.

Thanks again for reply. I will think more about it.

Yogendra Saraogi

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:11:50 PM9/21/12
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Nitin, it depends on what kind of eating disorder this guy has. No doubt, for the person dying out of hunger there would be compassion... and we all agree on that...

however, the guy who overeats....its just might be a disorder and he cant help it....and in that case as Esha said...we need to have the same compassion for him....after all he is suffering too....

coming to what you said ...gluttony (Eating to excess (personified as one of the seven deadly sins)) - yes u may not have same compassion for that person....but still think about it....he is not happy about it too...he just doesnt know what he is doing....so may be a little compassion and an advice and some help will work out for him....we should look at inspiring him to get out of this habit of overeating....

hope that answers your question...



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Sep 21, 2012, 1:18:32 PM9/21/12
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Great ..

I am completely out of loop ... Guys me going to Delhi for week for office work ..

Will catch up with u all once I am back ..

Regards & love

Bhavisha
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:41:50 +0530
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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:22:46 PM9/21/12
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thanks yogi !

this really helps...
one more point...


>>>>yes u may not have same compassion for that person.
   --- Do you think there can be "type" for compassion? or compassion is just compassion...

@Bhavisha: Happy Journey neta ji...

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:22:54 PM9/21/12
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:) thanks nitin,

Yogi will call u to understand this riddle ..
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:52:46 +0530
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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:28:04 PM9/21/12
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Why yogi would call me? I didn't get your point. He got the riddle and gave an explanation also....

b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:33:31 PM9/21/12
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Sorry Nitin,

I was pulling Yogi's leg .. I will read ur riddle and give my explanation too.

Good night .. Will see u guys soon ..

Regards,

Bhavisha
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:58:04 +0530
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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:38:09 PM9/21/12
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oh!
Blackberry provides that tool also!!
Gmail does not... sad!

Good night!

Yogendra Saraogi

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:49:19 PM9/21/12
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Nitin, I think Bhavisha meant that she will call me to understand the riddle...

The sentence read the other way may suggest that I will call you but am sure thats not what she meant buddy ;-)



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b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:50:37 PM9/21/12
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Thanks yogi,

For clarifying I also din understand what Nitin meant ;)

Ha ha ha good night guys
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:19:19 +0530
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Manish Agarwal

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:52:28 PM9/21/12
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:)

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b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:53:01 PM9/21/12
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Oye manish tuu bhi jaag raha hai ..

I will call you too and Nitin I will call you too

I will call everyone :)
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:22:28 +0530
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Yogendra Saraogi

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:55:09 PM9/21/12
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what the hell are you? A call-___....fill in the blank yourself :-D



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b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:55:32 PM9/21/12
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Ha ha ha just laughing at myself :)
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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:57:13 PM9/21/12
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me too!!

Manish Agarwal

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:57:45 PM9/21/12
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hey  Bhavisha were r u man, u called me in the morning the day I was departing I did nt take ur call then  called u several times from the airport ur phone went unreachable....

we I'm hosting u in Kolkata...

love u :)
manish

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b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:58:12 PM9/21/12
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I will call you :)
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:27:45 +0530
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Manish Agarwal

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Sep 21, 2012, 2:00:23 PM9/21/12
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*when

b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2012, 1:59:59 PM9/21/12
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TomoRrow
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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:30:23 +0530
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Manish Agarwal

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Sep 21, 2012, 2:01:02 PM9/21/12
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K:)

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Manish Agarwal

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Sep 21, 2012, 2:03:06 PM9/21/12
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Ok

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Esha Raman

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Sep 22, 2012, 2:54:31 AM9/22/12
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happy n safe journey Bhavisha......others i guess we shud start planning for the navchetna shibir


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Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012 11:29 PM
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NITIN BHATIA

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Sep 22, 2012, 3:43:12 AM9/22/12
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great!
Are we still on?

b4bha...@gmail.com

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Sep 22, 2012, 3:50:41 AM9/22/12
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Thanks Esha .. We can plan tht soon
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From: Esha Raman <esha_...@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:54:31 +0800 (SGT)

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