etymology of Vamshi

[raman v]

Dear Learned members,

May you kindly comment upon the etymology of the word "Vamshi" whose meaning in the dictionary is given as bamboo reed. It is popularly referred to as the flute beheld by Lord Krishna. Also, this word is a popular choice of boy's name. Any comment on its root would be appreciated.

Regards

raman

[Hnbhat B.R.]

Dear Learned members,

May you kindly comment upon the etymology of the word "Vamshi" whose meaning in the dictionary is given as bamboo reed. It is popularly referred to as the flute beheld by Lord Krishna. Also, this word is a popular choice of boy's name. Any comment on its root would be appreciated.

​Dear Raman,

Popularity or favor of names need not be looked for derivation in Sanskrit, it is left to the choice of the persons/parents concerned. 

Any valid usage in Sanskrit Text can be asked for derivation of etymology in Sanskrit through grammar as a tool, though inefficient enough, for widely popular names. Please quote any Sanskrit usage you have found for the word with the meaning you have mentioned. Not any name found in baby name websites preferred by their loving parents.

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Any valid usage in Sanskrit Text can be asked for derivation of etymology in Sanskrit through grammar as a tool, though inefficient enough, for widely popular names. Please quote any Sanskrit usage you have found for the word with the meaning you have mentioned.

"वंशी"-शब्दः तु प्रसिद्धे श्लोके वर्तते 

वंशीविभूषितकरान्नवनीरदाभात् | 

पीताम्बरादरूणबिम्बफलाधरोष्ठात्। 

पूर्णेन्दुसुन्दरमुखादरविन्दनेत्रात् 

कृष्णात्परं किमपि तत्वमहं न जाने॥

अतः रामन्-महोदयेन स्पृष्टा वंशी-शब्दस्य व्युत्पत्तिः समीचीना एव | एषः शब्दः संस्कृतवाङ्ग्मये वर्तते एव !

अस्मिन् श्लोके वंशी-शब्दस्य अर्थोऽपि प्रायः flute एवमेव यथा रामन्-महोदयेन निर्दिष्टः ?

सस्नेहम्, 
अभ्यंकरकुलोत्पन्नः श्रीपादः | 
"श्रीपतेः पदयुगं स्मरणीयम् ।"

[Hnbhat B.R.]

2013/8/7 sanskrit2601 <sanskr...@gmail.com>

सदयं

​ तेन यन्निर्दिष्टं पुनरवलोक्यतामधस्तात् -

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this word is a popular choice of boy's name. Any comment on its root would be appreciated.​

 

​There is no root and the dictionary gives only as doubtful origin for its meaning. ​But not as a boy's name

इत्येव मया निर्दिष्टम्। कस्यापि बालस्य नामनिर्देशः संस्कृते चेत्, तत्र व्युत्पत्तिः अन्वेष्टव्या, न वंशी-वाद्यभेदे इत्येव मया उक्तम्। वंशीधरः, वंशीरवः इत्यादयः प्रसिद्धा प्रयोगा एव, तेनापि कोशे दृष्ट एव इति तत्रैवार्थे व्युत्पत्तिजिज्ञासा एव उचिता। न स्वकपोलकल्पितार्थेषु व्याकरणशास्त्रस्य दुरुपयोगेन  व्युत्पत्तिशास्त्रस्य।

[ashish sharma]

Dear All

Kindly check all the meanings of वंश/वंशी and you can notice that no where it has been mentioned that ita a name of a boy. Infact in feminine it is वंशी and hence a girl can be called as वंशी but not boy. Now its upto you that whether you want to use a feminine name or masculine name.

(H1) वंश/अ [p= 910,1] [L=184159]        m. (derivation doubtful) the bamboo cane or any cane (accord. to L. also " sugarcane " and " Shorea Robusta ") RV. &c
[p= 910,1] [L=184160]         the upper timbers or beams of a house , the rafters or laths fastened to the beams (of a roof ; cf. प्राचीन-व्°) AV. &c
[p= 910,1] [L=184161]         a cross-beam , joist , joint VarBr2S.
[p= 910,1] [L=184162]         a reed-pipe , flute , fife Ka1v. Ra1jat.
[p= 910,1] [L=184163]         the back-bone , spine VarBr2S. BhP.
[p= 910,1] [L=184164]         a hollow or tubular bone BhP. (B.) Sch.
[p= 910,1] [L=184165]         the upper nasal bone L.
[p= 910,1] [L=184166]         the central projecting part of a scimitar or sabre VarBr2S.
[p= 910,1] [L=184167]         the line of a pedigree or genealogy (from its resemblance to the succession of joints in a bamboo) , lineage , race , family , stock S3Br. &c &c (esp. a noble race , a dynasty of kings , a list of teachers &c ; cf. Pa1n2. 2-1 , 19 Sch.)
[p= 910,1] [L=184168]         offspring , a son BhP.
[p= 910,1] [L=184169]         (ifc.) a succession or collection of similar things , assemblage multitude , host (as of chariots , stars &c ) MBh. Ka1v. &c
[p= 910,1] [L=184170]         a partic. measure of length (= 10 हस्तs) Li1l.
[p= 910,1] [L=184171]         a partic. musical note S3is3.
[p= 910,1] [L=184172]         pride , arrogance Va1s.
[p= 910,1] [L=184173]         bamboo-manna L.
[p= 910,1] [L=184174]        N. of विष्णु L.
(H1B) वंश/आ [p= 910,1] [L=184174.1]        N. of an अप्सरस् (daughter of प्राधा) MBh.
(H1B) वंशी [p= 910,1] [L=184175]        f. » s.v.
(H2) वंशी [p= 910,3] [L=184318]        f. a flute , pipe Pan5car.
[p= 910,3] [L=184319]         an artery , vein L.
[p= 910,3] [L=184320]         a partic. measure (cf. वंशिक) L.
[p= 910,3] [L=184321]         a partic. weight (= 4 कर्षs) L.
[p= 910,3] [L=184322]         bamboo manna L

regards

Ashish Sharma

Decrypting of Astrological Texts
OSD to President and Assistant Controller of Examinations of  Indian Council of Astrological Sciences(ICAS)

2013/8/7 Hnbhat B.R. <hnbh...@gmail.com>

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[Arvind_Kolhatkar]

Probably V.Raman's query " kindly comment upon the etymology of the word "Vamshi" whose meaning in the dictionary is given as bamboo reed" and his choice of the word "etymology" is not in agreement with the his purpose, which is to find out whether 'Vamshi" is suitable as a boy's name.  He perhaps does not the need the etymology but just advice about its meaning.

If that be so, I would say that the word is not appropriate as a boy's name.  Vamshi, like its other synonyms 'Muralee,' VeNu'  Bansuree' (Hindi), 'Baasaree' (Marathi) is of the feminine gender.  For 'Vamshee' to be masculine, its original would have to be 'Vamshin', which it is not.  therefore, in my view, it is not appropriate as a boy's name, despite the fact that fond parents are indiscriminately conferring it upon their darlings.

Arvind Kolhatkar, Toronto, August 07, 2013.

[Ramakrishnan D]

Some people may think that 'Vamsee" itself is a complete name to be named for a boy, instead of "VamseekrishnaH or VamseedharaH", and shortly they may call the boy as "Vamsee".  It is usual to call one with his shortened form.   

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[Hnbhat B.R.]

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Ramakrishnan D <r.va...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some people may think that 'Vamsee" itself is a complete name to be named for a boy, instead of "VamseekrishnaH or VamseedharaH", and shortly they may call the boy as "Vamsee".  It is usual to call one with his shortened form.   

​Taken this view as granted,  the shortened name could not be declined either as the feminine word वंशी or a masculine word, which it is not in fact, used in Sanskrit as ईकारन्त masculine word, which only would suggest वंशी in languages without inflection, it stands for वंशीधर, or वंशीकृष्ण. So etymology for the name वंशी could not be sought from Sanskrit usage, but only from the regional languages, in which it is used as shortened pet name for their boy by the parents (may some close friends or relatives call him, but never declined in Sanskrit as masculine name or forced etymology may result in misuse of Sanskrit etymology and grammar against the popular usage in Sanskrit meaning flute.) 

 

[Sameer Kumar Kaushik Mamillapalli]

Namaste,

Please correct me if I am wrong, Cannot we take इन्नन्त् शब्दाः form for vamshee?

I mean just like: one who possesses चक्र -->  चक्री (root चक्रिन् ). 

Similarly one who possesses वंश(flute) -->  वंशी (root वंशिन् )

Thanks,

Kaushik