Question about first verse of Raghuvamsa

[Harry Spier]

Dear list members,

Verse 1 of Raghuvamsa is:

वागर्थाविव संपृक्तौ वागर्थप्रतिपत्तये ।
जगतः पितरौ वन्दे पार्वतीपरमेश्वरौ ॥ १ ॥

M. R. Kale comments'  वागर्थाविव is a compound word and not, as some might be led to think, two words". 

M.R. Kale's full comment on this is copied below.  I don't follow the reasoning why वागर्थाविव is a compound and not two words, since वागर्थौ  is in the same case as  संपृक्तौ . Also at the end of his compound  he says there are numerous instances in the Raghuvamsa that show that the compound with "iva" is optional and not nitya, is he not saying that its optional to consider वागर्थाविव as a compound or as two words?

His full comment is:

 

Thanks,

Harry Spier

[Harry Spier]

Dear list members,

Verse 1 of Raghuvamsa is:

वागर्थाविव संपृक्तौ वागर्थप्रतिपत्तये ।
जगतः पितरौ वन्दे पार्वतीपरमेश्वरौ ॥ १ ॥

M. R. Kale comments'  वागर्थाविव is a compound word and not, as some might be led to think, two words". 

M.R. Kale's full comment on this is copied below.  I don't follow the reasoning why वागर्थाविव is a compound and not two words, since वागर्थौ  is in the same case as  संपृक्तौ . Also at the end of his comment  he says there are numerous instances in the Raghuvamsa that show that the compound with iva is optional and not nitya, is he not saying that its optional to consider वागर्थाविव as a compound or as two words?

His full comment is:

 

Thanks,

Harry Spier

[G S S Murthy]

Is it to indicate the intensity of संपृक्तत्व of वागर्थौ at a meta-level that वागर्थाविव is declared a compound?

Regards

Murthy

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[Shyam Subramanian]

Namaste,

Explanation of this by Dr. Sowmya Krishnapur of Vyoma labs can be found at https://youtu.be/vmrDsZKO8rk?si=FWWoJRzO3XiAzlpY

Regards,

Shyam

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[Lakshmanan Krishnamurti]

It is a यान्तावान्त संधि wherein an औ followed by the vowel इ is replaced by आव. There is no समास hence not a compound word

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[Shyam Subramanian]

Namaste,

The "वागर्थाविव" padam is interesting also because this is a special case where vibhaktilopaH does not happen during samAsa formation (due to the vArttika "इवेन सह समासो विभक्त्यलोपश्च"). There is a video by Dr. Sowmya Krishnapur of Vyoma labs explaining this as well as the nityasamAsa condition (I couldn't send the youtube link for some strange reason in the group but one can get it by searching for "Why is Vaagarthaaviva a Samaasa? | Dr. Sowmya Krishnapur" ).

Regards,

Shyam

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[अभ्यंकरकुलोत्पन्नः श्रीपादः | श्रीपतेः पदयुगं स्मरणीयम् ।]

I think वागर्थौ संपृक्तौ इव (संपृक्तौ) जगतः पितरौ पार्वतीपरमेश्वरौ वागर्थप्रतिपत्तये वन्दे is a good enough अन्वयः wherein संपृक्तौ can be interlaced between वागर्थौ and इव. By this वागर्थाविव is not needed to be considered as a compound word. So, if an optional syntax of separating the two words is possible, then compounding does not stay to be नित्य. 

In the case of अलुक्-compounded words such as युधिष्ठिरः, दिवंगतः, etc. there is no optional syntax possible. 

So, to my mind, whether compounding is नित्य or optional depends on whether there exists the possibility of optional syntax or not.

[Lakshmanan Krishnamurti]

Vak + arthaH are joined in a dvandava samasa to make a new compound word vagarthaH. This word  then acquires the case ending to become vaagathou, because it indcitaes dual number ( vak, and arthaH). it then forms yaantavvantAa sandhi to become vaagaarthaviva

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[sanjana]

Hii sir

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[S. L. Abhyankar]

There are two different points here - one is अन्वयः second is composition and grammar of the word वागर्थौ (वाक्+अर्थौ) 

About अन्वयः, I think as given by me is okay. 

वागर्थौ (वाक्+अर्थौ) is clearly a द्वन्द्व-compound word. There again an इतरेतर-द्वन्द्व compounding, because वागर्थौ has द्विवचनम् because there are two entities वाक् and अर्थः. 

The word इव clarifies the उपमा-अलङ्कारः with वागर्थौ being the उपमानम् and जगतः पितरौ पार्वतीपरमेश्वरौ being उपमेयम्.

Of course उपमा कालिदासस्य is well-known adoration of कालिदास:. 

Cordially, S. L. Abhyankar
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