Shlokas with clever manipulation of the language

[Arvind Kolhatkar]

Dear Group,

May I suggest that we create this thread to pool our resources and bring together 'orphan' or anonymous verses that display some clever manipulation of the language? There already are collections of such verses - for example, the mahakavyas have chapters devoted to them.  Not much will be gained by repeating them  It is the 'orphan' verses that need to be brought together as an online resource as a ready reference for anyone who may be interested in them.

I shall make a modest beginning by contributing this:

विषं भुङ्क्ष्व महाराज स्वजनैः परिवारितः।

नाभ्यांकेन विना राजन् कृष्णाजिनमकण्टकम्॥

'Great King, Take poison, accompanied by your dear ones.  Also eat a deer-hide without its navel and thigh, after removing thorns.'  This is the literal meaning.

Now look at the meaning by rearranging the words as under:

महाराज स्वजनैः परिवारितः (त्वं) वि-षं विना नाभ्यां केन (च) कृष्णाजिनं अकण्टकं भुङ्क्ष्व।

If you take away ष्, the two nasals न् and ण् and क् from कृष्णाजिनं you are left with ऋआजिअ, which, by the rules of sandhi, is राज्यं.  Now the verse makes sense!

(Had the terms been coined in those days, this verse would have qualified as a PJ or a sick joke in Sanskrit!) 

If an perceived anonymous verse has an author known to a member, that too is useful info and worth recording.

Arvind Kolhatkar, November 19, 2010.

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[Arvind_Kolhatkar]

[Sunder Hattangadi]

Namaste,            An excellent reference work is   http://tinyurl.com/24qd6km Figurative Poetry in Sanskrit Literature By Kalanath Jha       Regards,   sunder   --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Arvind_Kolhatkar <kolhat...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Sunder Hattangadi]

Here is att. another collection. The book is apparently out of print. (from Aurobindo Ashram).   sunder --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Sunder Hattangadi <sun...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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[G S S Murthy]

I offer this sloka for what it is worth. I learnt it from my uncle. I do not know if he himself had created it or learnt it from some one else.He did not tell me what it meant. Anyone who knows Kannada can recognise that in it there are words which sound like Kannada.

atti geheLi samtoShaM

tam gItammanasaahasam|

bhaavakeLimanollaasam

naadinI bisanIra taa||

अत्ति गेहेलि सम्तोषम्

तम् गीतम् मनसा हसम्।

भाव केलि मनोल्लासम्

नादिनी बिस नीर ता॥

It is also possible that it does not have any meaning.

Murthy

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[S. L. Abhyankar]

Interesting !
(1) मनसा हसम् can also be written as मनसाहसम् ?

• मनसा हसम् = smiling more internally than loudly
• मनसाहसम् = boldness in the mind !

(2) बिस नीर = "hot water" in Kannada ?
(3) अत्ति seems to be Pali or Ardhamagadhee for अत्र
(4) गेहेलि seems to be mixture of गेह = house (Sanskrit) + ili इलि = "here" in Kannada
(5) On the whole अत्ति गेहेलि सम्तोषम् = "Happy in this house here" Am I guessing too much ?
(6) In बिस नीर ता is it possible that

• बिस sounds to be PrakRut of विष typically in the style of व्रजभाषा and
  
• बिस नीर ता could be विषनीरता = having qualities of poisoned water ?
• नीर is certainly pure Sanskrit, apart from being Kannada and many Indian languages having adapted this word as their own. नीर= water is very common in Kannada
  

The verse may not be meaningless but seems to be composed by curious mixture of many languages !

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[Shyam Subramanian]

On 11/20/2010 12:41 PM, S. L. Abhyankar wrote:

Interesting !
(1) मनसा हसम् can also be written as मनसाहसम् ?

• मनसा हसम् = smiling more internally than loudly
• मनसाहसम् = boldness in the mind !

Dear Sri Abhyankar,

I have a question that is about your above question, though not directly related to the sloka. Is there any rule in saMskRta about how
it should be written? I understand that it is convenient for comprehension to write each padam separately, but I guess that is also
usually violated under sandhi (e.g. vRddhirAdaic is hardly written as vRddhir Adaic). I am curious to know if there are strict rules about writing
saMskRta, especially given the oral nature of transmission of many things in our tradition.

Regards,
Shyam

[S. L. Abhyankar]

नमो नमः श्रीमन् "श्याम सुब्रमणियन्"-महोदय !

The rule about when to have Sandhi or saMhitA compulsorily and when it is open to discretion, is -

संहितैकपदे नित्या नित्या धातूपसर्गयोः ।
नित्या समासे वाक्ये तु (सा) विवक्षामपेक्षते ॥
This was discussed in Lesson # 54.

To add to my observations on the shloka from Mr. GSS Murthy,
बिस नीर ता = Bring hot water
Since in Kannada बिस = hot नीर = water ता = bring

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[Vasu Srinivasan]

I bought this book a couple of years ago in Vedanta Book House in Bengaluru. Its available on various book websites.

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Regards,
Vasu Srinivasan

[Sunder Hattangadi]

Namaste,                  Yes, thank you! It is indeed still in the market.    An interesting article which the readers would enjoy:   http://ifih.org/TheCaseforSanskritasIndiasNationalLanguage.htm       Regards,   sunder --- On Sun, 11/21/10, Vasu Srinivasan <vas...@gmail.com> wrote:

[naresh keerthi]

there seems to be shlESa traversing two languages here - most likely  this verse was composed in response to a challenge in an aSTAvadhAna

 

The first word of each verse is a name of a relationship in kannada, and the poem must be intelligible to an avadhAni who has both kannada and sanskRta.

 

attigE - bhrAtRjAya - sister-in-law

tangi - sister - svasR

tamma = brother  - anuja (tangItamma-nasA)

bhAva - sister's husband (jIjA in hindi) 

nAdini =  nanAndA  - sister-in-law

atti  = khAdati

It probably should be manasA hasan

 

bisa = lotus

Regards,

 

Naresh Keerthi

 

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM, G S S Murthy <murt...@gmail.com> wrote: