dorbhih

[P.K.Ramakrishnan]

 

दोर्भिर्युक्ता चतुर्भिस्फुटमणिसयुतामक्षमालां दधाना

हस्तेनैकेन पद्मं शुकमपि च करे पुस्तकं चापरेण /

भासा कुन्देन्दुशंघस्फटिकमणिनिभा भासमाना समाना

देवी वाग्देवतेयं निवसतु वदने सर्वदा सुप्रसन्ना //

Can someone give the derivation and meaning 

of the word  दोर्भि: in this sloka.

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[hnbhat B.R.]

2011/9/5 P.K.Ramakrishnan <peek...@yahoo.com>

 

Can someone give the derivation and meaning 

of the word  दोर्भि: in this sloka.

( २. ५. ६८९) भुजबाहू प्रवेष्टो दोः स्यात्

 

भुजपर्यायाः चत्वारः - भुजः, बाहुः, प्रवेष्टः,  दोः, = arm.

If you want, derivation, दमेर्डोस् (उणादि २.६९) - दम्+डोस् > दम्+ओस्> द्[अम्]+ओस्>दोस् > दोष् - तृतीया बहुवचनम्; Instrumental case plural>>

दोर्भिः चतुर्भिः -( with four arms,) युक्ता - accomplished with fouir arms ,

The word ending in "s" 

स्फुटमणिसयुतामक्षमालां दधाना

हस्तेनैकेन 

carrying rosary of clear pearl beads in one hand

पद्मं शुकमपि च करे पुस्तकं चापरेण /

lotus and a parrot in the other hand and in the other a book.

भासा कुन्देन्दु-शंख-स्फटिकमणिनिभा भासमाना समाना

shining with the radiation similar to the kunda flower (konna poo), the moon,  clear pearl beads, proportionately featured, 

देवी वाग्देवतेयं निवसतु वदने सर्वदा सुप्रसन्ना //

this goddess of learning, may dwell pleased always in (my) mouth. 

I hope I have closely followed the wordings of the text for easy comprehension.

 

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[P.K.Ramakrishnan]

Many thanks for your detailed reply.

I would like to know what 2-5-689 refers to.

 

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[hnbhat B.R.]

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM, P.K.Ramakrishnan <peek...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Many thanks for your detailed reply.

I would like to know what 2-5-689 refers to.

 

Sorry, I forgot to add the referenced text. It is Amarakosha. as numbered in Sanskrit Documents List. The reference gives the 4 synonyms for भुज.

 

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Thanks.  I have Amarakosha downloaded in my computer.

 

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[P.K.Ramakrishnan]

Dear Dr.Bhat,

What will be thritiya dvivachanam  - will it be dorbhyam.  Better kindly give the

full ruupams from prathama to saptami in ekavachnam, dvivachanam and 

bahuvachanam of doh.  I am trying to decipher another incidence of dorbhih.

Thanks in advance.

 

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[hnbhat B.R.]

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:59 AM, P.K.Ramakrishnan <peek...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Dr.Bhat,

What will be thritiya dvivachanam  - will it be dorbhyam.  Better kindly give the

full ruupams from prathama to saptami in ekavachnam, dvivachanam and 

bahuvachanam of doh.  I am trying to decipher another incidence of dorbhih.

Thanks in advance.

भक्तिरसामृतम् of रूपगोस्वामी - 

तदीक्षणोत्प्रेमरसाप्लुताशया

जातानुरागा गतमन्यवोऽर्भकान् ।

उदुह्य दोर्भिः परिरभ्य मूर्धनि

घ्राणैरवापुः परमां मुदं ते  । । ३,४.४२  । ।

अत्र शिरोघ्राणम्, यथा श्रीदशमे (१०.१३.३३)

 

तत्र स्तन्यस्रावो, यथा श्रीदशमे (१०.१३.२२)

तन्मातरो वेणुरवत्वरोत्थिता

उत्थाप्य दोर्भिः परिरभ्य निर्भरं  ।

स्नेहस्नुतस्तन्यपयःसुधासवं

मत्वा परं ब्रह्म सुतानपाययन् । । ३,४.४६  । ।

द्विवचनम् -

नारायणीये -

७.२५.५-१ नूनः वुष्णुरयं निहन्म्यमुमिति भ्राम्यद्गदाभीषणं

७.२५.५-२ दैत्येन्द्रं समुपाद्रवन्तमधृथा दोर्भ्यां पृथुभ्यामम्मुं  ।

७.२५.५-३ वीरो निर्गलितोऽथ खड्गफलके गृह्णन्विचित्रश्रमान्

७.२५.५-४ व्यावृण्वन्पुनरापपात भुवनग्रासोद्यतं त्वामहो  । ।

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७.२५.६-१ भ्राम्यन्तं दितिहाधमं पुनरपि प्रोद्गृह्य दोर्भ्यां जवाद्

७.२५.६-२ द्वारेऽथोरुयुगे निपात्य नखरान्व्युत्न्खाय वक्षोभुवि  ।

७.२५.६-३ निर्भिन्दन्नधिगर्भनिर्भरगलद्रक्ताम्बु बद्धोत्सवं

७.२५.६-४ पायं पायमुदैरयो बहुजगत्संहारिसिंहारवान् । ।

== १० दशक

१०.५३.४-१ उत्तालतालीनिवहे त्वदुक्त्या बलेन धूतेऽथ बलेन दोर्भ्यां  ।

१०.५३.४-२ मृदुः खरश्चाभ्यपतत्पुरस्तात्फलोत्करो धेनुकदानवोऽपि  । ।

नारदीयपुराण -

दोर्भिः पञ्चाशता दक्षैर्बाणान्वामैर्धनूंषि च ॥१७॥ 

and many more you can find in literature. In plural द्वितीया (३)  तृतीया(१), चतुर्थी(१), पञ्चमी(१), षष्ठी (१.२,३), सप्तमी (१,२)  it is declined like पूषन्, अर्यमन्, etc. optionally:

पूष्णः, पूष्णा, पूष्णे, etc.

२. दोषम् - दोषौ - दोष्णः, 

३.१ दोष्णा - दोर्भ्याम् - दोर्भिः

४.१  दोष्णे, दोर्भ्याम् - दोर्भ्यः।

५. दोष्णः  - दोर्भ्याम् - दोर्भ्यः।

६. दोष्णः  - दोष्णोः, दोष्णाम्,

७. दोष्णि - दोष्णोः - दोःसु, दोष्षु

Normal table is here:

षकारान्तः पुल्लिङ्गो दोश्शब्दः( fore-arm)
वचनः →	एकवचनः	द्विवचनः	बहुवचनः
विभक्तिः ↓
प्रथमा	दोः	दोषौ	दोषः
संबोधनप्रथमा	हे दोः	हे दोषौ	हे दोषः
द्वितीया	दोषम्	दोषौ	दोषः, दोष्णः
तृतीया	दोषा, दोष्णा	दोर्भ्याम्, दोषभ्याम्	दोर्भिः, दोषभिः
चतुर्थी	दोषे, दोष्णे	दोर्भ्याम्, दोषभ्याम्	दोर्भ्यः, दोषभ्यः
पञ्चमी	दोषः, दोष्णः	दोर्भ्याम्, दोषभ्याम्	दोर्भ्यः, दोषभ्यः
षष्ठी	दोषः, दोष्णः	दोषोः, दोष्णोः	दोषाम्, दोष्णाम्
सप्तमी	दोषि, दोष्णि, दोषणि	दोषोः, दोष्णोः	दोष्षु, दोर्षु, दोषसु

Hope this will help. I got the table from murthy's page. Credits are due to him for providing a readily available table 

http://murthygss.tripod.com/Sabda_1.htm

Very useful page. Thanks to Mr. Murthy our member.

This optional forms are available for other words also:

6-1-63

पाद दन्त नासिका मास हृदय निशा असृज् यूष दोष् यकृत् शकृत् उदक आसन इत्येतेषां शब्दानां स्थाने शस्प्रभृतिप्रत्ययेषु परतः पद् दत् नस् मास् हृद् निशसन् यूषन् दोषन् यकन् शकनुदनासनित्येते आदेशाः यथासङ्ख्यं भवन्ति। 

The list extended:

 मांस पृतना सानु इत्येतेषां स्थाने यथासङ्ख्यम् मांस् पृत् स्नु इत्येते आदेशाः भवन्ति।

All the above words take optional forms as the same, with the substitutions prescribed respectively as above.

Sorry for the lengthy message.

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[P.K.Ramakrishnan]

Thanks for the lengthy message. 

The point I was trying to decipher was this.

In olden days as a punishment,  boys were asked to do toppikkaranam several

times.  It is learnt that word is  derived from  दोर्भि: कर्णं meaning holding the

ears by the two arms.  This is performed even while worshiping Ganapati in

the temples.

Here only two arms are used.  But dorbhih is more than two.  Karnam is

singular but two ears are involved in the process. 

Dr.Bhat could probably resolve the problem.

 

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[hnbhat B.R.]

One more usage of दोर्भिः

शूलाही टङ्कघण्टासृणिकुलिशपाशाग्न्यभीतीर्दधानं

दोर्भि: शीतांशुखण्डप्रतिघटितजटाभारमौलिं त्रिनेत्रम् । नानाकल्पाभिरामापघनमभिमतार्थप्रदं सुप्रसन्नं 

पद्मस्थं पञ्चवक्त्रं स्फटिकमणिनिभं पार्वतीशं नमामि ॥ 

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[hnbhat B.R.]

2011/9/6 P.K.Ramakrishnan <peek...@yahoo.com>

Thanks for the lengthy message. 

The point I was trying to decipher was this.

In olden days as a punishment,  boys were asked to do toppikkaranam several

times.  It is learnt that word is  derived from  दोर्भि: कर्णं meaning holding the

ears by the two arms.  This is performed even while worshiping Ganapati in

the temples.

Here only two arms are used.  But dorbhih is more than two.  Karnam is

singular but two ears are involved in the process. 

Dr.Bhat could probably resolve the problem.

Anyhow, I have not heard anything in Sanskrit to this effect though I have also been given the punishment in my younger days in the school and had the exercise also before Ganapati.

If any exact verse of Sanskrit is cited, I can solve the problem, but not of this type. 

बिभ्रद्दोर्भिः कुठारं मृगमभयवरौ सुप्रसन्नो महेशः।

सर्वालंकारदीप्तः सरसिजनिलयो व्याघ्रचर्मात्तवासाः।

ध्येयो मुक्तापरागामृतरसकलिताद्रिप्रभः  पंचवक्त्र-

स्त्र्यर्क्षः कोटीरकोटीघटिततुहिनरोचिष्कलोत्तुङ्गमौलिः॥

Just like the question is simple, the answer is also simple. Many do the exercise, holding their ears with their hands. (Only one has two ears and two arms. But no one can have a single ear and many arms as you have cited. But many have many ears and generic term ear कर्ण). If it is a valid citation, it can be solved like as I have explained here above.

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[dhaval patel]

दोस्‌ is the word which means hand

that is what i know

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चतुर्भिः दोर्भिः युक्ता - she who is endowed with four forearms

दोर्भिः is the तृतीया बहुवचन form of "dos" (दोस्) which means forearm or arm.

Apte gives the derivation as दम्यते अनेन इति दोस् (दम् + डोसि).

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|| आत्मा तत्त्वमसि श्वेतकेतो ||
(Thou art from/for/of/in That Ātman, O Śvetaketu)
     - Ṛṣi Uddālaka to his son, Chāndogyopaniṣad 6.8.7, The Sāma Veda

[श्रीमल्ललितालालितः]

दोः - बाहुरित्यर्थः । पुँलिङ्गवाचकमेतत्पदम् । तैर्दोर्भिः । 

तद्व्युत्पत्तिरित्थं प्रदर्शिता शब्दकल्पद्रुमे -

दाम्यत्यनेनेति दोः ।

दमु उपशमे । दमेर्डोसिः ।(उणा २।६९) ।

बाहुरित्यमरः । 

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श्रीमल्ललितालालितः
lalitAlAlitaH

[श्रीमल्ललितालालितः]

Here are other readings :

 

दोर्भिर्युक्ता चतुर्भिः स्फटिकमणिमयीमक्षमालां दधाना
हस्तेनेकैन पद्मं सितमपि च शुकं पुस्तकं चापरेण।
भासा कुंदेन्दुशङ्खस्फटिकमणिनिभा भासमाना(ऽ)समाना
सा मे वाग्देवतेयं निवसतु वदने सर्वदा सुप्रसन्ना॥

 

समाना and असमाना are two readings.

 

See these links for ( either for correct or incorrect) versions :

 

http://bit.ly/qsMgT3

 

http://bit.ly/rl06cZ

 

http://bit.ly/qpXeUW

 

http://bit.ly/pf09mC

 

 

And here is your version corrected :

 

 

दोर्भिर्युक्ता चतुर्भिस्स्फुटमणिसयुतामक्षमालां दधाना

हस्तेनैकेन पद्मं शुकमपि च करे पुस्तकं चापरेण ।

भासा कुन्देन्दुशंखस्फटिकमणिनिभा भासमाना समाना

देवी वाग्देवतेयं निवसतु वदने सर्वदा सुप्रसन्ना ॥

 

On Monday, September 5, 2011, P.K.Ramakrishnan wrote:

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[satyajit Borwankar]

1

dos

n. (m. only R. vi , 1 , 3 ; nom. acc. sg. %{do4s} S3Br. ; du. %{doSI} Kaus3. ; %{dorbhyAm} n. MBh. Ka1v. ; pl. %{-bhis} Ma1lav. ; %{dohSu} BhP.) the fore-arm , the arm &c. = %{doSan} (q.v.) ;

Forearm =  दोः
Satyajit

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 भासा कुन्देन्दु-शंख-स्फटिक-मणि-निभा भासमानाsसमाना

Asamaanaa meaning without an equal seems to be correct.

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[Vimala Sarma]

 दोस्

(H2) दोस् [p= 498,3] [L=97101]	n. (m. only R. vi , 1 , 3 ; nom. acc. sg. द्/ओस् S3Br. ; du. दोषी Kaus3. ; दोर्भ्याम् n. MBh. Ka1v. ; pl. °भिस् Ma1lav. ; दोह्षु BhP. ) the fore-arm , the arm &c = दोषन् (q.v.)
[L=97102]	the part of an are defining its sine Su1ryas.
[p= 499,1] [L=97103]	the side of a triangle or square W. (cf. बाहु and भुज).

Vimala