Uvaṭa and Mahīdhara

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valerio virgini

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Dec 17, 2014, 9:15:10 AM12/17/14
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Dear members

I'm looking for information on Uvaṭa and Mahīdhara.
They have written some wonderful comments on Īśa Upaniṣad and I would like to learn more about their lives and so on.

Does anyone know if there are biographical works about them?

thanks
valerio

Taff Rivers

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Dec 19, 2014, 8:03:54 AM12/19/14
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Valerio,

   Not a lot is known.

They were commentators of the Vedas, full stop!


     Wikipedia has this to say:


Uvaṭa was a commentator of the Vedas. He wrote commentaries of the prātiśākhyas, notably on the Rigveda-pratishakhya of Shaunaka. According to Bhimasena's Sudhasagara-tika, he was a brother of Kaiyata, the author of Mahavhasyapradipa, and of Rajanka Mammata, [1] and lived at the court of Bhoja, in the mid eleventh century.

 


   

Mahīdhara ("earth-bearing") was a 16th-century commentator of the Vedas. His treatises include the Mantramahodadhi (mantra-uda-dhí, "great ocean of mantras") of ca. 1588, and the Vedadipa (veda-dīpa, "light of the Vedas"). The latter concerns the Vajasaneyi-samhita of the White Yajurveda.

Mahīdhara's namesake is a legendary mountain described in the Mahabharata, which is also an epithet of Vishnu.


     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C4%ABdhara


Oh, Uvaṭa had a father!

vajraṭa
m. N. of the father of Uvaṭa, Cat. [914,2]


Taff Rivers

valerio virgini

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Dec 23, 2014, 4:59:45 AM12/23/14
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Grazie Taff

Mahīdhara seems to quote a comment of Kātyāyana ... You know if Kātyāyana has commented Iśopaniṣad?

Immagine in linea 1


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shankara

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Dec 23, 2014, 7:33:54 AM12/23/14
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Namaste,

The following book in Hindi deals with the lives and works of more than 50 Vedic commentators including Uvata & Mahidhara.

History Of Vedic Literature Vol I Paart II., 99999990828111. Bhagavad datta. 0. english. . 316 pgs.
 
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shankara


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Hnbhat B.R.

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Dec 23, 2014, 8:33:18 AM12/23/14
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On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:29 PM, valerio virgini <valerio...@gmail.com> wrote:
Grazie Taff

Mahīdhara seems to quote a comment of Kātyāyana ... You know if Kātyāyana has commented Iśopaniṣad?


As I know, Katyayana has written श्रौतसूत्र related to शुक्लयजुर्वेद, of which ईशावास्योपनिषत् is the last chapter. The quoted portion seems to be a Sutra of the Sutra-s.
 

valerio virgini

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Dec 23, 2014, 9:10:10 AM12/23/14
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Thanks Dr.Bhat

We can consider paraṁpara  Kātyāyana-Uvaṭa-Mahīdhara? Or the system paraṁpara was established with Nimbarka, Rāmānuja, Madhava, Vallabha?

valerio

 






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Hnbhat B.R.

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Dec 23, 2014, 10:53:09 AM12/23/14
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On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:40 PM, valerio virgini <valerio...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dr.Bhat

We can consider paraṁpara  Kātyāyana-Uvaṭa-Mahīdhara? Or the system paraṁpara was established with Nimbarka, Rāmānuja, Madhava, Vallabha?

valerio

 

I could not understand what do you mean प्ररम्परा. It simply means the succession of disciplines, through transfering the teachings. It does not stand alone. 

सदाशिवसमारम्भां शङ्कराचार्यमध्यमाम् । अस्मदाचार्यपर्यन्तां वन्दे गुरुपरम्पराम् ।

This the परम्परा of the teachers. There is no such relation between the names you have suggested and it does not necessarily denote the system parampara as you seem to mean. The names a chronological order and it is different from the आचार्यपरम्परा, or गुरुपरम्परा. The word is translated loosely as tradition or strictly as succession. The names have got only chronological order and not any other such succession.







 

Arvind_Kolhatkar

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Dec 23, 2014, 3:22:48 PM12/23/14
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This does not say much but I was told that such ट' ending names, like मम्मट, रुद्रट, लोल्लट etc are Kashmiri.


Taff Rivers

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Dec 23, 2014, 6:51:38 PM12/23/14
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Latin Lady,

    Kātyāyana, as well as commentating on some Vedic sutra, was also a grammarian.

It is in that sense only, where he can be said to follow a particular line (of successive grammarians).


The Upaniṣads and so on, are poetry of a mystic kind, whereas grammar is something else entirely.

It's the vocabulary that is going to effect interpretation - they are mysterious and vague by design.
Their appeal is to the senses not to logical analysis.

Consider at the other end  -  today's Bob Dylan has admitted that he doesn't know himself what his songs 'mean', they don't have any! They have defied analysis, because there isn't meaning behind them.
They are simply chosen to conjure up emotions responses of certain theme.

Themes of universal appeal.

Anyway, I don't think grammarians are allowed to have emotions!

All these details are available from the academic sites of the major institutions in Oxford, Delhi ...

Endless are the discussions...

...take what answer you like, and if you like any of them, make one up for yourself and add it to the pile.


Seasons greetings, all.

    Taff Rivers

Hnbhat B.R.

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Dec 23, 2014, 8:05:51 PM12/23/14
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Taff Rivers <eddie...@gmail.com> wrote:
Valerio,

   Not a lot is known.

They were commentators of the Vedas, full stop!


     Wikipedia has this to say:


Uvaṭa was a commentator of the Vedas. He wrote commentaries of the prātiśākhyas, notably on the Rigveda-pratishakhya of Shaunaka. According to Bhimasena's Sudhasagara-tika, he was a brother of Kaiyata, the author of Mahavhasyapradipa, and of Rajanka Mammata, [1] and lived at the court of Bhoja, in the mid eleventh century.

 


   

Mahīdhara ("earth-bearing") was a 16th-century commentator of the Vedas. His treatises include the Mantramahodadhi (mantra-uda-dhí, "great ocean of mantras") of ca. 1588, and the Vedadipa (veda-dīpa, "light of the Vedas"). The latter concerns the Vajasaneyi-samhita of the White Yajurveda.

Mahīdhara's namesake is a legendary mountain described in the Mahabharata, which is also an epithet of Vishnu.


     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mah%C4%ABdhara


Oh, Uvaṭa had a father!

vajraṭa
m. N. of the father of Uvaṭa, Cat. [914,2]


Taff Rivers



The vicki page article seems to be contradicting and misleading.

Inline image 1 

In spite of the verse quoted in the Sudhakara commentary, it is not reliable for taking उव्वटas the brother of Kaiyata. as Uvvata, mentions his father as वज्रटand resident of आनन्दपुर, during the reign of Bhoja, according to the colophons of his Bhashya. 

The two sources above raise the question, the names जैयट and वज्रट are referring to the same person? If not, how can Kaiyata and UvvaTa could be brothers?




Taff Rivers

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Dec 24, 2014, 3:24:44 AM12/24/14
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hnbhat,


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   The vicki page article seems to be contradicting and misleading
In spite of the verse quoted in the Sudhakara commentary, it is not reliable for taking उव्वटas the brother of Kaiyata. as Uvvata, mentions his father as वज्रटand resident of आनन्दपुर, during the reign of Bhoja, according to the colophons of his Bhashya. 

The two sources above raise the question, the names जैयट and वज्रट are referring to the same person? If not, how can Kaiyata and UvvaTa could be brothers?

<==


Sir, all these articles are open to peer review and editing! 

Whilst I am confident when it comes to computer matters, having worked there in research and development, I can but go by what I read on the page when it comes to biographical data of the venerable ancients.


Regards,

   Taff Rivers


Deepro Chakraborty

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Feb 4, 2025, 6:52:13 PMFeb 4
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Although it's a 10-year-old thread, it should still be useful to include an article by Lakshman Sarup on Uvaṭa and Mahīdhara.

Sarup, Lakshman. 1936. “Uvaṭa and Mahīdhara.” In Grierson Commemoration Volume, 73–87. Lahore: The Linguistic Society of India.

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