saha within compounds

[Harry Spier]

Dear list members,

Can सह  meaning "with" occur in sanskrit compounds.  I.e are there sanskrit compounds such as xxxxसहyyyy meaning "xxxx with yyyy".  My question is only if such compounds exist, and if so, if anyone can give me an example from the literature.

Thanks,

Harry Spier

[Harry Spier]

Dear list members,

I meant to ask:

Can सह  meaning "with" occur within sanskrit compounds (not at the start of the compound).  I.e are there sanskrit compounds such as xxxxसहyyyy meaning "xxxx with yyyy".  My question is only if such compounds exist, and if so, can anyone can give me an example from the literature.

Thanks,

Harry Spier

[Nagaraj Paturi]

रामसहाध्यायी , भीमसहोदरः, ब्रह्मानन्दसहोदरः, दुष्टसहवासी etc., 

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[Harry Spier]

Thank you Nagaraj.  Are  these examples from the literature.

Harry Spier

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

ब्रह्मानन्दसहोदरः is from Alankara Shastra, I think from Sahitya Darpana. 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

It is from मम्मट 

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Since you work on stotras, you might have come across  नारायणसहोदरी 

[Sadagopan V]

अत्र  सर्वेपि  उदाहरणेषु  "सह" शब्दः  समासे  पूर्वपदरूपेण एव  भवति  खलु 

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[Mohan Chettoor]

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On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 8:20 AM Harry Spier <vasisht...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[NathRao]

All these seem to be X+(sahodara/sahodarI) which to me mean brother/sister of X. OP's question seems to be about something like rAmasahalakShmaNa. I doubt that such thing exist, except as mishearing of rAmas+sahlakShamaNaH

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[valerio virgini]

सह-बहुव्रीहिः "Compound which has the prefix स- for the first member which stands for सह (together) समान् (similarity) सदृश (simultaneity)":
पुत्रेण सह वर्तते इति → सपुत्रः "is (वर्तते) with (सह) son (पुत्रेण) → with-son (he has a son)"

अव्ययीभावः “compound which becomes (भावः) an indeclinable (अव्ययी)”.
With the prefix स- which stands for सह (together, similitude, simultaneity): कोपेन सह → सकोपम् “with (सह) fury (कोपेन) → furiously”. हरेः सादृश्यं → सहरि "similar (सादृश्यं) to Hari (हरेः)"

But a single compound in the form xxxx सह yyyy I don't know if it exists.

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[G S S Murthy]

The following should be admissible”

सीतया सह ->सहसीतः

ऊर्मिलया सह -> सहोर्मिलः

सहसीतश्च सहोर्मिलश्च-> सहसीतसहोर्मिलौ

Thanks and regards,

Murthy

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[Mohan Chettoor]

I am not a scholar nor an authority on Sanskrit grammar. Judging from the opinions expressed by various scholars on this subject, I am emboldened to state that the original doubt raised by Mr. Spier seems to be a grammatical impossibility.

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[Amba Kulkarni]

Namaste Spier ji.

The compound formation, except Dvandva and bahupada bahuvrīhi is binary in nature.

So  X saha Y is to be first deciphered as (X-saha)-Y or as X-(saha-Y). 

saha-Y is a valid compound, leading to sa-Y.

Now you need to check whether there will be 'saamarthya' between X and sa-Y to form a compound?

Namaste Spier ji.

The compound formation, except Dvandva and bahupada bahuvrīhi is binary in nature.

So  X saha Y is to be first deciphered as (X-saha)-Y or as X-(saha-Y). 

X-saha is not a valid compound. So (X-saha)-Y is ruled out.

saha-Y is a valid compound, leading to sa-Y/ saha-Y

Now you need to check whether there will be 'saamarthya' between X and sa-Y/saha-Y to form a compound?

X-(saha-Y) looks a promising candidate. But I can not imagine any case where X and sa-Y have a saamarthya to join together.

Best,

Amba

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[Amba Kulkarni]

Sorry, there was some internet issue.

Here is the correct message.

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Namaste Spier ji.

The compound formation, except Dvandva and bahupada bahuvrīhi is binary in nature.

So  X saha Y is to be first deciphered as (X-saha)-Y or as X-(saha-Y). 

X-saha is not a valid compound. So (X-saha)-Y is ruled out.

saha-Y is a valid compound, leading to sa-Y/ saha-Y

Now you need to check whether there will be 'saamarthya' between X and sa-Y/saha-Y to form a compound?

X-(saha-Y) looks like a promising candidate. But I can not imagine any case where X and sa-Y have a saamarthya to join together.

Best,

Amba

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[Harry Spier]

Thank you Amba,

You wrote:

X-(saha-Y) looks a promising candidate.

That was indeed what I was trying to find out.

Best wishes,

Harry

[kenp]

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