Different meanings of योग्य

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Harry Spier

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Dear list members,
Two different works I just looked at use the word 

योग्य  but with very different meanings.

In Rāmāyaṇa verse 2.1.17

शीलवृद्धैर् ज्ञानवृद्धैर् वयोवृद्धैश् च सज्जनैः |

कथयन्न् आस्त वै नित्यम् अस्त्रयोग्यान्तरेष्व् अपि ||

 
योग्य has been translated as exercises, practice.
I.e. अस्त्रयोग्य is translated as weapons practice, or weapons exercises.
But another hymn I just looked at दत्तात्रेयस्तोत्रम्
verse 7 is:

भोगालयाय भोगाय योग्ययोग्याय धारिणे |

जितेन्द्रिय जितज्ञाय दत्तात्रेय नमोऽस्तु ते ||

How would you translate योग्य in this verse.


Thanks,
Harry Spier

NathRao

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Aug 28, 2024, 4:09:08 PM8/28/24
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The basic/etymological meaning: fit/suitable/qualified (to associate with) seems to be fine: something like, 'one who is suitable for good persons to associate with'.
According to Apte's dictionary, the word for exercise/drill is yogyaa, in feminine. Seems to be a "technical" usage.
Regards
Nath Rao

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Aug 31, 2024, 8:18:57 PM8/31/24
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Thank you Nath.

Nagaraj Paturi

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Sep 1, 2024, 9:13:39 AM9/1/24
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etymologically 25 to 38 are etymologically related to the root yuj 

25) युक्त yukta from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1313)
...p. [युज्-क्त] 1 Joined, united. -2 Fastened, yoked, harnessed. -3 Fitted out, arranged; उदतिष्ठन् महाराज सर्वं युक्तमशेषतः Mb.6.16.4. -4 Accompanied; युक्तः प्रमाद्यसि Ki.11.29. -5 Furnished or endowed with, filled with, having, possessing (with instr. or in comp.) -6 Fixed...
   26) युक्तिः yuktiḥ from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1313)
युक्तिः yuktiḥ f. [युज्-क्तिन्] 1 Union, junction, combination. -2 Application, use, employment. -3 Yoking, harnessing. -4 A practice, usage. -5 A means, an expedient, a plan, scheme. -6 A contrivance, device, trick. -7 Propriety, fitness, adjustment, aptness, suitableness...
   27) युज् yuj from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1314)
युज् yuj I. 7 U. (युनक्ति, युङ्क्ते, युयोज, युयुजे, अयुजत्, अयौक्षीत्, अयुक्त, योक्ष्यति-ते, योक्तुम्, युक्त) 1 To join, unite, attach, connect, add; तमर्थमिव भारत्या सुतया योक्तुमर्हसि Ku.6.79; see pass...
   28) युज् yuj from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1314)
युज् yuj a. (At the end of comp.) 1 Joined or united with, yoked, drawn by &c.; रथाः सर्वे चतुर्युजः Mb.12.29.66. -2 Furnished or filled with, possessed of. -3 Exciting, setting on. -4 Even, not odd. युक्षु कुर्वन् दिनर्क्षेषु सर्वान् कामान्...
   29) युज् yuj from Macdonell: A practical Sanskrit dictionary (p. 246)
युज् yuj VIII. (V., C.) yunákti, yuṅkté, VI. yuñga (E., rare), II. yug (almost invariably Â.; RV., common), VI. Â. yuga (RV.1), I...
   30) युज् yuj from Macdonell: A practical Sanskrit dictionary (p. 246)
युज् yuj a. yoked together (V.); yoked with or drawn by (–˚); joined, united, or furnished with, possessed of (–˚, sts. in.); granting, bestowing (–˚); even (not odd); m. yoke-fellow, comrade, associate (V.); pair, couple.
   31) युज्य yujya from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1314)
युज्य yujya a. Ved. 1 Connected, united. -2 Related to. -3 Proper, fit, suitable. -4 Of the same class or kind. -ज्यः A kinsman. -ज्यम् 1 Union, connection. -2 Relationship.
   32) युज्य yujya from Macdonell: A practical Sanskrit dictionary (p. 246)
युज्य yujya a. (V.) joined, associated, related, closely allied; suitable; n. (RV.) alliance, relationship.
   33) योक्तृ yoktṛ from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1316)
योक्तृ yoktṛ m. [युज्-तृच्] 1 One who yokes, joins, unites &c. -2 A coachman. -3 An exciter, instigator.
   34) योगः yogaḥ from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1318)
योगः yogaḥ [युज् भावादौ घञ् कुत्वम्] 1 Joining, uniting. -2 Union, junction, combination; उपरागान्ते शशिनः समुपगता रोहिणी योगम् Ś.7.22; गुणमहतां महते गुणाय योगः Ki.10.25; (वां) योगस्तडित्तोयदयोरिवास्तु R.6.65. -3 Contact, touch, connection; तमङ्कमारोप्य शरीरयोगजैः सुखैर्निषिञ्चन्तमिवामृतं...
   35) योगिन् yogin from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1318)
योगिन् yogin a. [युज् घिनुण्, योग-इनि वा] 1 Connected or endowed with. -2 Possessed of magical powers. -3 Endowed or provided with, possessing. -4 Practising Yoga. -m. 1 A contemplative saint, a devotee, an ascetic; आत्मौपम्येन सर्वत्र...
   36) योग्य yogya from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1319)
योग्य yogya a. [योगमर्हति यत्, युज् ण्यत् वा] 1 Fit, proper, suitable, appropriate, qualified; योग्योऽयं दृश्यते नरः -2 Fit or suitable for, qualified for, capable of, able to (with loc., dat. or even gen. or in comp.). -3 Useful, serviceable. -4
   37) योजक yojaka from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1319)
योजक yojaka a. [युज्-ण्वुल्] 1 One who yokes or harnesses. -2 Joining, uniting, providing &c. -3 A joiner, arranger, contriver; योजकस्तत्र दुर्लभः. Subhāṣ.
   38) योजनम् yojanam from Apte: The practical Sanskrit-English dictionary (p. 1319)
योजनम् yojanam [युज्-भावादौ ल्युट्] 1 Joining, uniting, yoking. -2 Applying, fixing. -3 Preparation, arrangement. -4 Grammatical construction, construing the sense of a passage. -5 A measure of distance equal to four Krośas or eight or nine miles; स्याद् योजनं क्रोशचतुष्टयेन

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Harry Spier

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Sep 1, 2024, 9:27:39 AM9/1/24
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 Thanks Nagaraj-ji,
So in the Dattatreya stotram
योग्ययोग्याय would mean something like "to the fittest of the fittest"  
Harry Spier


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Nagaraj Paturi

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From that etymological origin, the word yogya has connotation meanings such as 

joinable, unitable, usable, employable---> eligible-----> qualified --------> acceptable ------------ > respectable 

In the case of astra , as in the case of the Ramayana verse , astrayojana is using astras astrayoga is the technique of using astra (with the prefix pra- the same becomes astraprayoga - astra-pra-yoga ) 

astrayojana astrayoga is the activity of using astras ( as part of learning to use astras) 

( it seems to be astrayogaantareshvapi ) 

yogyataa in the shaastras of sentence analysis is a required relation between / among words.  That relation is 'the fitness to be put together in a sentence'. ( joinability between/among words) 

(Yogyataa, aakaankshaa and aasatti are the required relation among words for them to be able to form a sentence) 

But in daily language , in Sanskrit and many Indian languages, even in contemporary use, as a qualifier for persons, the word yogya means respect-worthy  with the semantic route 

oinable, unitable, usable, employable---> eligible-----> qualified --------> acceptable ------------ > respectable


Harry Spier

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Sep 1, 2024, 3:54:21 PM9/1/24
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Very clear. Thank you Nagaraj .
Harry Spier


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