Ashta vikruti

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kamalesh pathak

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Sarvebhyo namah, learned group i want to chant mantra of yajurveda
(shukla) but not knowing the theory. can someone guide me to this ? I
will be greatly obliged
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Ajit Gargeshwari

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May 10, 2012, 12:47:04 PM5/10/12
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One can listen to Shukla yajurveda recital from this link please click from pages 1-28

http://www.astrojyoti.com/shuklayajurvedamp3part1.htm

If one wants to know about the theory then one has to learn and study the Samhita ( either by reading the original text with a Bhashya or by reading translations a number of books are available). To further understand the theory of the Mantras one can
read the six subjects of the Vedangas. Phonetics (Śikṣā), Ritual (Kalpa), Grammar (Vyākaraṇa), Etymology (Nirukta), Meter (Chandas), Astronomy (Jyotiṣa).

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Ajit gargeshwari

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Hnbhat B.R.

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May 11, 2012, 9:54:42 AM5/11/12
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Here is a message regarding ashta vikriti patha. The theory is simple algebraeic one and you should find it on the net if you search with proper wordings in different sequence.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/bvparishat/vikruti$20patha/bvparishat/lgVjtW1UAIQ/VcTL2sFowNoJ

Theory of chanting is one thing and to learn from a teacher practically is a different thing. If you think it is possible for you to chant the ashta vikruti patha knowing the theory itself by yourself, I have no objection. Please try if you like. Learning from a teacher, you will know theory by practice.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/bvparishat/vikruti$20patha/bvparishat/lgVjtW1UAIQ/VcTL2sFowNoJ

In the link above you will find different views about chanting the vikruti patha itself than the saMhitA pTha which is the prakRuti of the vikRuti- eightfold. It follows that after you learn the prakRuti pATha of any Veda (whether it be Yajurveda - shukla or kRuShNa, or Rigveda) would be the same excepting the modifications suggedsted in the prAtisgAkhya-s for their recital.

This is what I guess from your title of the topic and the lines in the message. I have not any idea what you really want to know or learn.

The Vikrithis are eight in number:

jataa maalaa sikhaa rekhaa dhvajo dando ratho ghana :

ashtau vikrtaya : proktaa ; kramapoorvaa maharshibhi :

jataa, maalaa, sikhaa, rekhaa, dhvaja danda, ratha, ghana are names of the eight vikRuti-s. which should be learnt in order and ghana is the last standard of Vedic learning.


Here is a brief introduction of recitation of Veda-s asappearing in the book "Pancarudra-Ghana" by Suresh Ghanapathi, which is available for purchase also with CD-s ecitation.

http://pvkalathur.blogspot.in/2007/08/1-and-max-no.html

The above is just an Introduction. You will find detailed theory of recitation in the above method in the article by Suresh in the book itself.

Right now I could not reproduce the relevant page.

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Ajit Gargeshwari

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May 11, 2012, 10:22:27 AM5/11/12
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In continuation to what Dr. Bhat has already mentioned

Various patterns and combinations are known as : vaakya,pada, krama, jaTA, mAlA, SikhA, rekhA, dvaja, danDa, ratha, and Ghana
.

Among these, vAkya, pada, krama, jaTa and Ghana methods of chanting are more popular and let us analyze them only here.

Vaakya or samhitA pATha is to recite a mantra in a sentence straight with appropriateintonations. In sentences, some of the words have to be conjoined in chanting.

In padapAtha, a sentence is broken down to ‘words’ or pada’s, which gives the student theknowledge of each word.

In the krama method, the first word of a sentence is added to the second, the second to the third, the third to the fourth and so on, until the whole sentence is completed. This method enables the student to understand not only individual words but also how the words combine in recitation with the attendant modification of the svaras.

In the jaThA method, the first word and the second word are recited together and then the words are recited in the reverse order and then again in the original order. For example, in the krama method, if they are recited as 1-2;2-3; 3-4; 4-5 etc., in the jaThA method, they are recited as 1-2-2-1-1-2; 2-3-3-2-2-3; 3-4-4-3-3-4 and so on. Scholarly priests capable of reciting in the jaThA method are given thetitle “jaThAvallabha”.

The Ghana method is more difficult than the above where thecombinations of words will be 1-2-2-1-1-2-3-3-2-4-4-2-3; 2-3-3-2-2-3-4-4-3-2-2-4 and soon. A priest who can recite in the Ghana method is given the title ghanapAThi.

Scholarly priests capable of reciting the entire veda-SakhA in the krama format is given the title kramavit.

These methods of complicated recitations in a oral tradition were devised in order to preserve the purity of the word, the sound, intonation, pronunciation, accent and sound combinations of the vedamantras. By repeating the words in manifold ways, the correct tally of words was also kept which has naturally ensured its purity. To enable the scholars to take up the difficult methods recitiation, it was believed that, more difficult methods of chanting earned more puNya or merit!

Just to illustrate what it takes for a priest to earn the title of a ghanapAThi, let us briefly analyze what is involved in the training. For illustration, let us consider only one portion of the krishNa yajur veda, called the taittiriya samhitA. In this portion there over 2,000 pancASat’s (1 pancASat = 50 pada’s), amounting to 109,308 pada’s. We can roughly assume each pada to have 3 syllables, thus totaling ~330,000 syllables. In the Ghana method of chanting, each syllable gets repeated 13 times, thus amounting to 4,290,000 utterances. And each of these utterances have to conform to all the six parameters varNa (letters);svara (intonation); mAtrA (duration of articulation); balam (force of articulation);sAma (uniformity), and santAna (continuity).

There were scholars proficient in more than one veda as evident from the names dvivedi, trivedi and caturvedi. In addition, there are other samhitA portions, brAhmaNa portions, AraNyaka poritons, and the Upanishads, in the vedic scriptures alone. After proficiency in ghanapATha, some learn lakshaNa-ghanapATha, which deals with the characteristics of each letter, its origin, how it has to be emphasized in a mantra, its varNa, the presiding deity, etc etc. Then there are purANa’s, dharma-Sastras etc.

There are a few in this entire world who can recite a complete shakha of a given veda. In this scenario one need not worry too much about ashta vikriti patha.

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Ajit Gargeshwari



Hnbhat B.R.

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May 11, 2012, 10:43:29 AM5/11/12
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Here is one more topic discussed in the same grou:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/bvparishat/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%83/bvparishat/yx1padZ3c8M/NShEBuE-FmsJ

If you know Hindi, here is a page explaining theory for each of the vikRuti-s with examples:\

http://agniveer.com/3887/why-vedas-cannot-be-changed-hi/

with numerals. Wish you all the best.

kamalesh pathak

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May 12, 2012, 10:50:31 AM5/12/12
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learned group thanks by heart for the detailed reference.
my intention and aim is clear.
i want to chant the veda with all eight vikrutis.
i have studued Shukla yajurveda samhita from my teacher but due to
tight work schedule he were unable to teach me all the vikrutis and
now a days i can not spare enough time to go to my teacher and most of
time i am working on desktop so ..... i thought if i can learn the
Ashta vikrutis through the group reference will help me to satisfy
myself. that's it.
thanks again for all the links provided by you all.
regards,
kamalesh pathak

On 11/05/2012, Hnbhat B.R. <hnbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is one more topic discussed in the same grou:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/bvparishat/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%83/bvparishat/yx1padZ3c8M/NShEBuE-FmsJ
>
> If you know Hindi, here is a page explaining theory for each of the
> vikRuti-s with examples:\
>
> http://agniveer.com/3887/why-vedas-cannot-be-changed-hi/
>
> with numerals. Wish you all the best.
>
> --
> *Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R. M.A., Ph.D.,
> **Research Scholar,
> *
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> Pondichéry - 605 001
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jayesh mehta

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May 6, 2016, 9:34:07 AM5/6/16
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Namaskaram !

I am looking for Shri suktam in Ghanapatha.

As well as please guide me for Panch Sandhi in Ghana.

Please help me for the same.

Ajit Krishnan

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May 6, 2016, 12:15:17 PM5/6/16
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namaste,

Only a portion of the vedas (typically the samhita) is recited in vikritis like the ghanapatha. In the case of the shri sukta -- which is a rig veda khila sukta -- even the swaras in the samhita patha were likely lost and re-added at a later time. There are many violations of standard vedic swara rules in popular renditions.

If "Panch sandhi" refers to the popular five शान्ति mantras, these are also not recited in vikriti form, AFAIK.

sasneham,

    ajit
 

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jayesh mehta

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May 7, 2016, 12:50:34 AM5/7/16
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Thank You very much for reply.

It means that we can not do Vikruti Patha of sri suktam.

Om Om Om.

kamalesh pathak

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May 31, 2016, 9:23:35 AM5/31/16
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Delayed reply granted?  Panch sandhi is not five shanti mantras.sir.. Adding the first word repeating with the next one next to first one one is panch sandhi..yet learned member kindly enlighten this topic please.. Regards.  Kamalesh pathak

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