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| Dear All, It is simply stupid to argue about something based on erroneous grounds! First of all, the quote 'Mlesccha hi yavanasteshu...' is NOT a sloka by Mihira. Mihira clearly states that he is quoting Garga. If we accept the Ayana related quote provided by Garga Samhita and quoted again in the text "Adbhuta Sagara" by King Ballalasena, then Garga lived during BC 1100. Yes, around 700 years after the period of the Meluhans (Harappan people) whose knowledge is well known based on available archeological evidence. The word "Mlesccha" is used by Sage Garga in many places. In the following quote about Rahu in 11th house present in Garga Hora too. Garga hora states that – Yasya labhagato rahur labho bhavati nischayat ============== The word used is 'Mleschha Adhipatir' - which literally means lord of Mlechha lands. During the BC 1400 period of Garga, this word 'Mleccha' indicated in a de-generated form the people of 'Meluha' (the ancient city of Harappa) that stopped being existence as a reputed land by around BC 1800 itself. Thus the word 'Mechha adhipatir' indicate the lord of Harappa or near by lands who followed ancient tantric cult. They were reputed for their astrological, architectural and systematic knowledge; but was considered as de-generated cult as well to an extend since they (the Meluhans) were not the followers of Vedic or Jain wisdom. Please note that the majority of Aryans at that time might have followed the Vedic path, which the Jains like Garga followed the Jain religion. Mleschha desa might have indicated Afghanistan, Pakistan or parts of Iran, Armenia, Tajakkistan, Baluchistan, Parts of India etc during that period. Thus the statement, "Will be rewarded by lord of Mlescha desa" indicate that "the native would be reputed and rewarded by the non-vedic kings of near by countries, which does not follow the vedic path".This can happen, if and only if the native itself does not follow and appreciate the Vedic path but still would be a reputed scholar. Since he is a non-traditional scholar and follows innovative non-traditional, non-conservative path - he will not be reputed by the conservative vedic scholars; but by the non-vedic kings of adjacent kingdoms who repute freedom of thought and presentation of innovative ideas. Another reason for the reputation by lords of adjacent lands could be his success as a middleman, trades man and human being with crooked intellect to suit the situation. The individual with Rahu in 11th is usually ready to take his chances and does not value his money - and usually wastes money on investments and businesses. He is daring and success comes to him for sure at one time or the other. Going abroad to earn and reap success is not a necessity for him (due to his confidence in his own ability and willingness to follow any method to amaze wealth and success), but usually he does this (i.e. goes abroad). ============== Ok. That much about the term "Mlesccha" and Sage Garga of BC 1100. Now coming to the argument on "Kriya, Tavuru etc' names ascribed to signs. The following article could be helpful: http://www.ancientindianastrology.com/cmsa/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=0&view=viewdownload&catid=123&cid=1326 The following articles also could be helpful. 1) Anabha-Sunabha-Dhurudhara: http://www.ancientindianastrology.com/cmsa/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=153:anabha-sunabha-dhurudhara-kemadruma&catid=36:nirayana-jyotisha&Itemid=59 2) Vasi-Vesi-Ubhayachari: http://www.ancientindianastrology.com/cmsa/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=233:solar-yogas-vasi-vesi-ubhayachari&catid=36:nirayana-jyotisha&Itemid=59 3) Kendra-Panapara-Apoklima: http://www.ancientindianastrology.com/cmsa/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=97:house-naming-terminology&catid=36:nirayana-jyotisha&Itemid=59 Weekdays were popular even from the vedic times! The knowledge of 60 nadikas is much popular in India much before the time of Arthasastra of Chanakya Vishnugupta (BC 350), as evident from the fact that even Arthasastra refers to it! Note: Don't these stupid people know that there is not a single evidence of astrology available from Greek prior to BC 60?!!! Before ascribing things to Greece in an effort to deform hindu knowledge, they should better first study greek astrology and its history which they want to praise!! If these people don't know what they are speaking about and is wasting the time of others, then whom to blame?!! Love and regards, Sreenadh --- On Tue, 1/15/13, Prabhakara Das <prabha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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