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[Kevin]

HiI was having DXKeeper randomly take several minutes (after double-clicking the desktop icon) to open the app window on the desktop. This was with Windows 10, a 4 year old system.

For a variety of unrelated reasons, I just built a new desktop PC using a core i7-12700K, 32 GB of Ram, and running windows 11 Pro.

I reinstalled DXKeeper ver 16.5.5 on this new computer. When I launch the app, it can take a full 5 minutes before opening on the desktop.

I can see the app immediately in task manager.

The log file lives on a network drive. I can open an explorer window for that log file network folder even before launching, and verify that I can see the log file.

But when launching the DXKeeper app, nothing happens for several minutes.

Is there some debug mode I can turn on that will show what DXKeeper is actually doing for so many minutes?

I checked in the app directory and there is no error log information.

Thanks,

Neal N6YFM

I have added exceptions in BitDefender anti-virus for dxkeeper.exe, AND the entire folder.

I have rebooted several times, and wait at least 5 minutes before launching, and it still does not open the

DXKeeper several minutes after launch, although DXKeeper.exe does indeed show in Task Manager as running.

I use approx 70 other applications on Windows 10 and 11, and none of the others show this behavior. Do you guys

have any type of trace or debug capability built into the DXKeeper code so that we can figure out where it is

hanging or timing out?

Cheers,

Neal N6YFM

Hi Larry and Dave:

I reviewed and also the thread that Larry mentions.

This is an honest question, but after reading that above, are the DXlabs programs written with an unusual framework/programming

product that is not frequently used anymore? It seems that there are dozens of known interactions with other software, utilities, and

anti-virus, that all cause trouble for DXLabs. But these same utilities, programs, and anti-virus cause absolutely no issue with dozens

of other ham software products, office suites, dozens of photography apps, and approx one dozen programs that I use for developing

software for microcontrollers and uploading the compiled software/firmware onto the projects. It strikes me curious that the DXLabs

software is the lone victim (or cause?) here? Honestly, it would be very interesting to understand why, what about the programming

method, for the DXLabs apps, is causing both you guys and us users so much headache here?

Wait, interrupt, DXKeeper finally opened on screen, 8.5 minutes after launch...

Windows 11 Pro, 21H2, OS Build: 22000.708

Neal

Hi Larry and Dave:

I reviewed and also the thread that Larry mentions.

This is an honest question, but after reading that above, are the DXlabs programs written with an unusual framework/programming

product that is not frequently used anymore? It seems that there are dozens of known interactions with other software, utilities, and

anti-virus, that all cause trouble for DXLabs. But these same utilities, programs, and anti-virus cause absolutely no issue with dozens

of other ham software products, office suites, dozens of photography apps, and approx one dozen programs that I use for developing

software for microcontrollers and uploading the compiled software/firmware onto the projects. It strikes me curious that the DXLabs

software is the lone victim (or cause?) here? Honestly, it would be very interesting to understand why, what about the programming

method, for the DXLabs apps, is causing both you guys and us users so much headache here?

Wait, interrupt, DXKeeper finally opened on screen, 8.5 minutes after launch...

Windows 11 Pro, 21H2, OS Build: 22000.708

Neal

+ The fact that any other running application can slow or stop the execution of a DXLab application demonstrates a fundamental failure of Windows to execute a fundamental duty of an operating system: preventing running applications from interfering with each other.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Curious what antivirus protection people are using. I have Bitdefender and I see fairly slow "boot" time when launching the programs. I have the DXL directory excluded from scans etc. This one is running Windows 11 and is a considerably better computer.

+ At startup, the Launcher makes several queries over the internet to determine what releases of DXLab applications are available, and what database versions are available. It also interacts with other running DXLab applications via DDE.

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