RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Nigel Lowe
Hi Tenda,
Your and my last discussion and broad agreements reached on the 17th refer.
Thanks so much for this – these DWA linkages are really vital!
I did try to contact Pieter Oberholzer in East London but regret that he is apparently set to retire at the end of November. I did speak to your DWA Water Sector Support Director – G Mbambisa who confirmed this. So I hope there is someone else who can be nominated soon.
Please still send me your IAM Assessment tool to ensure there is optimum alignment between the DWA tools and our NRW-IAM methodology.
Thanks,
Nigel
From: Rasikhanya Tendamudzimu [mailto:Rasik...@dwa.gov.za]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:56 AM
To: Nigel Lowe; Evans Jenny
Subject: RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
HI Nigel
CHAMPIONS LIST,NW WEARE ALSO PLANING TO DO ROLLOUT BEFORE END OTHIS YEAR.
Regards,
Tenda.
From: Nigel Lowe [mailto:nigel...@saimic.co.za]
Sent: 20 October 2013 02:05 PM
To: Evans Jenny
Cc: 'ge...@mweb.co.za'; Rasikhanya Tendamudzimu; Ntabeni Patrick
Subject: RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Dennis, cc Patrick and Others already involved.
I trust you and I can meet soon. Please send me your contact details. Another email will refer as to how this matter surfaced at a meeting with Jenny’s Sector Support Directorate on Tuesday 15th and in which I need to now pick up with you.
Nothing further transpired like I hoped in the email below but you can note what I say there. I hope the right way emerges with the support of not just you but even the support of your Directorate as well as Patrick Ntabeni, not merely with Tenda. Tenda on Thursday was also very ready to support matters going forward. I copy Patrick now as I hope to have time to speak to him this coming week while we are both at IMESA 2013 in Port Elizabeth.
Hopefully you and I might get to talking directly the week after this one,
Regards,
Nigel Lowe
Infrastructure Management & Development Services
(Now trading as “SAIMIC” for Service, Support, Integrity)
287 31st Avenue, Villieria, 0186, Pretoria, Gauteng
Member_SAAMA, MIMESA, MWISA
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From: Nigel Lowe
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:42 AM
To: 'Evans Jenny'
Cc: ge...@mweb.co.za;
Rasik...@dwa.gov.za
Subject: RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Jenny (& Dennis if Jenny thinks this helps – now looking forward to meeting you and please get to know me….)
Cc others to perhaps also benefit.
Please Let us keep this to ourselves, just in case I am misunderstood! (Jenny – this when I decided to exclude Dennis, just in case there are things I might now know about.)
So noted- nice to see this mileage! Eish - more institutional work-arounds! At what ‘community’ cost too! I now propose that if the E&W Seta meeting happens on the 4th AM (or later) that Dennis and even you come to join in. Let me pre-empt your response; Notably - Why not – especially as governance issues are best exposed due to the service sector (actually dire) consequences. This is why Infra Asset Management (IAM) is so useful, transformative and underpins reform – it constructively spotlights EVERYTHING – enabling choice “warts and all”. Also why NT is only able to “deal with asset administration”. But it MUST be applied discreetly then too, even in NOT declaring it expressly. I have noted well how DWA is implementing its W-IAM agenda and even in this distribution – hopefully this SETA business is perhaps another, I say, VERY necessary ‘I-AM-enabling’ dimension….
Your attendance will be for exactly the reasons just stated. Let you and I talk this through on the 30th anyway.
Well having gone this far - and in confidence of keeping this amongst WATER colleagues– please see the type of NRW-IAM IMPLEMENTATION structures – now notably under discussion (to be sliced and diced) amongst ‘emerging external partners’ and then brought again to DWA at some stage. I will now copy you ALL these informally later today anyway – but especially before Monday….. I will speak to their “necessary creativity” when we can talk. Overcoming our widespread “institutional headaches” is NOT easy or are their quick wins either….
Nigel
PS – Geraldine – is out of the country next week but I trust might be slightly encouraged to know some stalwarts in DWA “keep on keeping on”!
From: Evans Jenny [mailto:Eva...@dwa.gov.za]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:00 AM
To: Nigel Lowe; Mtsweni Dennis
Subject: FW: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Nigel
Please be aware of DWA’s efforts to take the proposal (Gerladine) forward. Please liaise with Dennis Mtsweni in this regard.
Best Regards
Jenny Evans
Regional Coordination and Management
Cell No: 082 806 3897
Fax No: 0866 469 666
Land Line: (012) 336 - 8796
From: Mtsweni Dennis
Sent: 25 September 2013 03:09 PM
To: Evans Jenny; Mathiba Kentse Gladness
Subject: RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
There was an issue of co-funding when we wanted to submit to the NSF. An amount of R40m co-funding was approved by the LGSETA board before it was dissolved.
We have requested a meeting with the Administrator, but so far we haven’t got a response from his office. We sent another meeting request to the PA hopefully we will get a positive response.
From: Evans Jenny
Sent: 25 September 2013 02:43 PM
To: Mtsweni Dennis; Mathiba Kentse Gladness
Subject: RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Gosh. Is there no other avenue we can pursue?
Best Regards
Jenny Evans
Regional Coordination and Management
Cell No: 082 806 3897
Fax No: 0866 469 666
Land Line: (012) 336 - 8796
From: Mtsweni Dennis
Sent: 25 September 2013 11:49 AM
To: Evans Jenny; Mathiba Kentse Gladness
Subject: RE: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Good day Jenny
The proposal is stuck at the LGSETA because the SETA is currently under Administration. The key personnel who were part of the previous training programme and who worked on this proposal in the LGSETA have left the organisation.
Regards
Dennis Mtsweni
Water Services Sector Development
Tel: 012) 336 8257
Mobile: 0721830607
From: Evans Jenny
Sent: 25 September 2013 09:35 AM
To: Mtsweni Dennis; Mathiba Kentse Gladness
Subject: FW: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
I thought this proposal was submitted? Please update me.
Best Regards
Jenny Evans
Regional Coordination and Management
Cell No: 082 806 3897
Fax No: 0866 469 666
Land Line: (012) 336 - 8796
From: Nigel Lowe [mailto:nigel...@saimic.co.za]
Sent: 24 September 2013 05:57 PM
To: ge...@mweb.co.za
Cc: Evans Jenny
Subject: A rapid recovery boost RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Geraldine, CC Jenny
Like I just said “Unbelieveable timing!” I my own transition to I-AM based-empowerment (enabling) could be positive but not as rapidly after my last message as per this title. Thanks SO MUCH for how you responded too. In confirmation of our rapid chat, I state unequivocally that I WILL help YOU try to “re-attach something” based on this.
In short and just in principle see what I have done to your amended and re-attached title page…. Your offer could yet help to fill one ‘huge hole” (my 4th Quadrant) that even I was aware of.
I confirm that;
a) This can really help current efforts in the ways I described to you
b) This should be piloted. Real work actually helps keep at bay those that cannot. And once proven from a broad basis – what stops it? Not much!
c) ‘We’ re-approach Jenny to very judiciously revisit this and hope to find enough internal support to help DWA outsource ‘more of solution than in the recent past’. Our new NRW-IAM Programming SPV is ONLY one potential route as even NRW-IAM needs this. However this perhaps needs to stand-alone as then they are both actually stronger – tougher to cut down several than one (combined) initiative- especially while ‘our government headship’ is an open question.
d) Thank you too for your permission to seek ‘industy-interest’ TOMORROW to help ‘us’ to do that,
Greatly encouraged,
Nigel
From: ge...@mweb.co.za [mailto:ge...@mweb.co.za]
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:34 PM
To: nigel...@telkomsa.net
Subject: RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Nigel
I respond to you alone as it is something I need to float past you first. Some time ago - as part of the RRU and the associated Extended Local Government Support Approach (ELGoSA) - I started developing a proposal to the National Skills Fund (which has billions in unspent monies) for the funding of targeted training and skills development within WSAs and WSPs. The main focus was on building sufficient capacity for ensuring Blue Drop/ Green Drop compliance and adherence to the requirements of Regulation 17/2834 as well as addressing the need for Asset Management and associated O+M. Professional development and Artisan training were to be addressed through separate avenues. The 1st via Verena Meyer at the DWA Learning Academy and the 2nd through Frikkie Fouche (ex DBSA) as part of an LGSETA initiative.
While the proposal was developed for DWA (under Jenny and Dennis Mtsweni) and brought on board the EWSETA, the LGSETA, CoGTA (as well as intending to bring in SALGA and National Treasury) it fizzled out because the project ended. I tried to resurrect it as part of the RRU intervention in the Eastern Cape………… I then floated it to North West who were interested but didn't take it further because of the various crisis they were dealing with at that point.
I attach it hereto - please as confidential - but would like you to go through it and see whether attempting to get some funding to complete it to address the NRW-IAM agenda more fully. While I think it dovetails, it could be updated and fully aligned, including the broader needs of water institutions in general rather than purely focusing on WSAs and WSPs.
There appears to be no doubt that we could get access to many millions of Rs for practically building capacity and addressing the government agenda to create meaningful work, given the fact that we would be bring a multi-governmental approach to sector capacity needs. A proposal that is supported by DWA, National Treasury, SALGA, CoGTA, the EWSETA as well as the LGSETA would be a very, very strong driver for the allocation of funding. Especially if it meets the imperatives of the National Skills Development Strategy (NSDS III) as well as the various other drivers such as youth development and employment, growth and development, good governance, etc. While I had estimated a first phase of approximately 50 to 60-million as a starting point, we could go bigger or smaller depending on whether we wish to launch a pilot or roll out comprehensively.
Maybe it is the type of practical intervention Thoko could find budget for that would be sufficient to allow me, yourself and a few other critical resources to drive it appropriately to its end. We could build budget into the actual proposal to assist in having it rolled out at local level but would need to ensure that the usual tenderpreneurs don't climb on board and deliver nothing while sucking the programme dry.
I wanted to chat with you about it at our meeting but there were so many things on the table and time was short.
Have a look and see what you think.
Kind regards
Geraldine
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Subject: RE: Exploring SETA Pre-Positioning FW: About NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Sanet (& Tshelofelo), cc Other SETA and potentially involved Team colleagues
I am confirming my proposal for a meeting 4th Oct for at least the 3 of us in Johannesburg 0900-1030 hours. Tshelofelo, I have not been successful in raising your office to confirm this but decided not to hold this back. There might yet be some flexiliblity for this rather than morning. Even if you are not available, I will still try for Sanet and still hope to find you at some point. Who else attends is still an open issue as I see it but let us get there.
I had a wonderful discussion with Mabu Raphotle yesterday (EDTP Seta) that seems confirms how opportune our “NRW-IAM” (et al Operations and Maintenance (O&M) Support PLUS) offering is. Then note the email below – especially the red text and hotlinks. It is also amazing how illustrative NRW-IAM is of the policy challenges that Water and Energy (TM’s SETA jurisdiction) sectors face. The only challenge is to find enough funds to demonstrate its value. Projects and ‘learning events’ are needed to occur concurrently. That can notably challenge mindsets (even right at community level) and demonstrate ways to deliver real value. I’ll hope to fill in the gaps behind these kind of statements when ‘we’ (collectively or individually) meet. So this meeting needs to be rather informal and exploratory. But quite evidently access to discretionary funds is pivotal and much potentially flows from that.
I also copy in Mr Bhagwan from the Water Research Commission. A funding proposal to them is under their consideration. That proposal includes demonstrating, for example, O&M ‘gaps’. That funding is still not secured. However any real ‘sustainable value’ depends on finding matching ‘enabling’ funds, hopefully I trust with the help of Sector Education and Training Authorities, like I trust via those copied…..
The following electronic spaces also give some insight and or deep background into how far these matters have been taken. However all this means VERY little without practical demonstration even in small places (e.g. targetted water management zones) like hopefully within Mpumalanga and Gauteng; Please anyway take note of these for your own reference, background and or future monitoring at any stage.
The DRAFT Presentation – The Potential of NRW – also linked below
The WRC Project Proposal (without graphics)
A NRW-IAM founded Google Group – titled ‘I-AM-Enabling’ – ideal for own monitoring.
A NRW-IAM Public References Dropbox – (noting this Dropbox technology is regrettably not accessible on some internal networks but with those with private internet access, it will work)
A NRW-IAM Mobilizers Dropbox – insights into targetted areas / WSA’s, especially where governance is most crucial for NRW-IAM to have any hope of impact..
Regards,
Nigel Lowe
From: Nigel Lowe [mailto:nigel...@telkomsa.net]
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 5:40 AM
Subject: RE: Can we get serious about NRW-IAM enabling, especially between Mp and Gauteng?
Hi Gerald, (& Abri / AECOM) CC informing / updating others linking to NRW-IAM
PREFACE: This email is rather significant even if I say so myself. This message started with the title-line – “Exchanging Contact Details - connecting mobilized persons for NRW-IAM Enabling” but by the end of it – I was startled by its scope and content as well as the number of relating one-on-one contacts, I am trying to manage. Hence the new title. So I am actually making some strategic distinctions and shifts. Bottom line – we need not just funds but more structure and I say, partners. Let me start with information sharing. Now watch this I-AM Enabling espace too in future…..
(4 paragraphs omitted)
Then some exceptionally insightful issues emerged in relation to C4L (NGO where I am a Board Member)’s SETA efforts. SETA Policy of Training formulation (et al FET Development) refers. That seemingly further elevates formality contrary to the reality of things like operational applied empowerment (i.e. job skilling). This is seemingly being challenged by internal leadership coming from the Water and Services SETA and in contrast from the Services SETA. Actually this is VERY understandable due to the dominance of what I call “resource intensification” (RI - energy intensification and water conservation plus) in both service sectors. In both, it is the ‘broad government challenges’ that are primary but not exclusive causes of sector service maintainability problems. We here all know that we are running ‘short of supply’ in both water and energy. (If you want further parallels you will find it here with reference to the EIUG label. RI is a notable policy and sectoral SETA anomaly issue, tied to SETA action, that seems quite pivot to NRW-IAM. I will therefore urgently try to explore such SETA leadership research sources as further sources of start-up funds for us.
Regards,
Nigel Lowe
Infrastructure Management & Development Services
(Now trading as “SAIMIC” for Service, Support, Integrity)
287 31st Avenue, Villieria, 0186, Pretoria, Gauteng
Personal Profile: za.linkedin.com/pub/nigel-lowe/5/84/92a
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