Re: [sahana-maindev] l10n resource
Chamindra de Silva
The Sahana-L10N is certainly an important project for Sahana and I
consider it on par with SahanaPy and Sahana(PHP). I have not know
anyone to think otherwise. However I do understand your logic on
HFOSS-L10 and it does make sense, but would like to ensure that the
results of this work always make their way into the Sahana code base
and that there will always be some support for a Sahana disaster
response effort.
Please let us know specifically what steps we can take to better
ensure this and make the job of the translators easier. I am sure we
can work on a policy to give committer access to the leading
translators if that is what is required.
Chamindra
2009/10/26 Dominic König <dom...@nursix.org>:
> Let me comment this,
>
> Gavin noted in another mail "the key point I took away being that translation
> generally shouldn't be a core activity for developers and that it is better
> to outsource to a translation community if possible."
>
> Bingo!
>
> So, the one named below is one example. http://pootle.locamotion.org is
> another, very successful one - translating, among others, Firefox, Wordpress
> and Pootle itself.
>
> Gavin suggests now to shift Sahana translation into one of these communities -
> and I think that is very well possible. He also asks me what would be the
> advantage of creating a new HFOSS-L10N community from scratch.
>
> Well - I'm not doing that: creating from scratch.
>
> I actually have a community, and that one is experienced with Sahana. All I do
> is to extend the infrastructure and open it up to other projects, in order to
> bundle resources within the same domain.
>
> Counter-question: why shift to another community, while there is an
> experienced one that can take over (almost) seamlessly?
>
> I mean, the changes I prepare are just "lessions learned":
>
> - Upgrading Pootle and connecting it to a VCS (bzr, in that case)
> - Adding Launchpad-translation (formerly Rosetta) as alternate tool
> - Replacing the front-page by a Trac
> - Moving the project administration (from nowhere) to Launchpad
> - Inviting other HFOSS projects to share their L10N resources
>
> The problematic roadblock:
>
> The existing Sahana(-php) infrastructure and project governance doesn't allow
> the changes above (for several reasons I already noted in other mails). To
> implement them (and I promised that to the L10N group) I _have to_ set up an
> independent infrastructure - or I must wait until a better infrastructure
> (and project governance) is up.
>
> However - the latter simply has not happened so far and meanwhile I think it
> will never happen, and moreover, as a non-committer I'm not allowed to speak
> or vote in that process either - coders only, you know.
>
> The first in turn requires the Sahana board to adopt - at last - L10N as an
> official Sahana project, and officially allow it to have it's own governance
> and infrastructure. This doesn't happen either.
>
> What shall I do? What can I do?
>
> Why are you all the time picking on me to either continue at the dead end or
> help you replace my solution by a better solution? Why should I? And how?
>
> Should I perhaps go on the same gauntlet running as in SahanaPy - do what I
> think should be done, name it "Sahana-XXX" and take all the charges of
> branding abuse again?
>
> No - that's too high a risk.
>
> Dominic
>
> söndag 25 oktober 2009 skrev Chamindra de Silva:
>> Hi Gavin,
>>
>> Are there any advantages of this over our current pootle server. If we
>> are considering migrating, we need to have a compelling reason to do
>> so? Possibly Dominic can make a recommendation here.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Gavin Treadgold <g...@kestrel.co.nz> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Just sitting in a l10n session at the GSOC mentor summit, and have
>> > heard the following site mentioned.
>> >
>> > <http://translatewiki.net/>
>> >
>> > The following projects are being translated by this service already.
>> >
>> > • Commonist - a file mass upload tool for MediaWiki wikis
>> > • FreeCol - a colonisation game
>> > • FUDforum - a discussion forum
>> > • MantisBT and extensions - a bug tracker
>> > • MediaWiki and extensions - a wiki software on which this site
>> > runs • Mobile Wikipedia - m.wikipedia.org
>> > • Mwlib.rl - a python library for writing PDF documents from
>> > MediaWiki markup language
>> > • NOCC - a webmail client
>> > • Okawix - an offline Wikipedia browser
>> > • OpenLayers - a dynamic map generator
>> > • OpenStreetMap website - a free and editable map
>> > • OpenStreetMap's Potlatch - an OpenSteetMap editor
>> > • Vocabulary trainer of OmegaWiki
>> > • Wikiblame - a tool for finding authors in Wikimedia wiki pages
>> >
>> > Just wanted to share this in case you weren't aware of it.
>> >
>> > Cheers Gav
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