I propose to make SageNB no longer a separate package but to move it
back into the Sage git tree.
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+1.
For those who disagree, please recognize that the current situation is unmanageable: there are interdependencies between sage and sagenb, so certain changes in sage require changes in sagenb. Getting those changes done in sagenb is difficult, because sagenb is not really actively maintained.
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 5:06:34 PM UTC+1, John H Palmieri wrote:+1.
For those who disagree, please recognize that the current situation is unmanageable: there are interdependencies between sage and sagenb, so certain changes in sage require changes in sagenb. Getting those changes done in sagenb is difficult, because sagenb is not really actively maintained.Could you perhaps point out at these?Are there any issues/pull requests on sagenb related to such changes?
Hi everyone,
With the greatest respect, I disagree strongly - chopping and changing the notebook this way leads to a lot of instability in the code and confusion for anyone who wants to get into developing on sagenb projects.
Added to the fact that none of us would have time to document changes in detail causes new contributions stagnate, which wastes effort and randomizes progress.
Actually the functionality of the current notebook is good, the look and ui is very dated and as many are aware, a bit on the unpolished side.
Remembering Samuel Ainsworth's really good work a few year's back, I would like to ask why was that system not developed and integrated into the local sagemath distributable?
From the trials he conducted in 2012 it ran well on Sage 5.3 and was in my opinion a decent step forward. I'll post this to a separate question as I wanted to explore the possibilities of getting that up and running again, even if only for private use here.
It doesn't seem to connect to sage 7.3 so I wanted to see if anyone knew why ?
Very best to all
Jack
I understand that opinions on usability of https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/tree/newuidiverge. (and with the breakneck speed javascriptframeworks are developed, one may ask whether something written in 2012 is still a great idea)You ask why sagenb is not developed further.1) the sagenb's design is really dated, and jupyter notebook seems a better (and much bettersupported) alternative.2) Another actively developed alternative is SMCs notebook, which can be runlocally.
HiOn 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:I understand that opinions on usability of https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/tree/newuidiverge. (and with the breakneck speed javascriptframeworks are developed, one may ask whether something written in 2012 is still a great idea)You ask why sagenb is not developed further.1) the sagenb's design is really dated, and jupyter notebook seems a better (and much bettersupported) alternative.2) Another actively developed alternative is SMCs notebook, which can be runlocally.In Africa we have connectivity and power issues, which requires a local notebook.
Would jupyter be a possible replacement for sagenb if sagenb is discontinued from active development?
Is it already on a stand-alone sagemath install?
HiOn 23 November 2016 at 22:59, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Jan Groenewald <j...@aims.ac.za> wrote:
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> Hi
>
> On 23 November 2016 at 22:05, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I understand that opinions on usability of https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/tree/newui
>> diverge. (and with the breakneck speed javascript
>> frameworks are developed, one may ask whether something written in 2012 is still a great idea)
>>
>> You ask why sagenb is not developed further.
>> 1) the sagenb's design is really dated, and jupyter notebook seems a better (and much better
>> supported) alternative.
>> 2) Another actively developed alternative is SMCs notebook, which can be run
>> locally.
>
>
> In Africa we have connectivity and power issues, which requires a local notebook.
SMC **can be run locally**:
1. Install docker.
2. Type this (all one line)
docker run --name=smc -v ~/smc:/projects -p 80:80 -p 443:443
sagemathinc/sagemathcloud
Now you're running SMC locally (visit http://localhost). See
https://github.com/sagemathinc/smc/blob/master/src/dev/docker/README.md
We don't want to install docker. We want to install a debian package.