Proposed Code of Conduct for sage-devel

[Tom Boothby]

The fitness of this Code may be limited, as I don't feel like I should
post it to sage-devel in its entirety.

Code of Conduct:
1. Don't be a dick.

[Bill Hart]

Should we be thinking of introducing a code of conduct for sage-flame as well. Let's have a vote on the issue:

[ ] Yes, adopt the code of conduct as drafted by Tom Boothby, William Hart and Richard Fateman (yet to be publicly revealed).

[ ] No, are you kidding me. 

Bill.

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[William Stein]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Bill Hart <goodwi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Should we be thinking of introducing a code of conduct for sage-flame as
> well. Let's have a vote on the issue:
>
> [ ] Yes, adopt the code of conduct as drafted by Tom Boothby, William Hart
> and Richard Fateman (yet to be publicly revealed).
> [ ] No, are you kidding me.
>
> Bill.

That code states "Don't be a dick", and Dick (=Richard) is the number
one poster of all time to sage-flame (by far), so it would be very
counterproductive to adopt that code. :-)

>
> On 20 November 2014 at 20:16, Tom Boothby <tomas....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The fitness of this Code may be limited, as I don't feel like I should
>> post it to sage-devel in its entirety.
>>
>> Code of Conduct:
>> 1. Don't be a dick.
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[Bill Hart]

When I open my letterbox, I always say "don't be a bill".

[Richard Fateman]

tom's suggestion as given would have to be phrased or interpreted as
"Don't act dickish" so as not to be a personal attack, but a comment
addressing comments or behavior. There is a T-hirt that says
"Don't be a dx^3/dt^3"
but it may be this readership does not have enough physics to decode.

In any case, a code of conduct for sage-flame might be rather
out of place. What... don't post anything that is too long? Obscene?

Rjf

[Bill Hart]

On 24 November 2014 at 21:56, Richard Fateman <fat...@berkeley.edu> wrote:

tom's suggestion as given would have to be phrased or interpreted as
"Don't act dickish"  so as not to be a personal attack, but a comment
addressing comments or behavior.   There is a T-hirt that says
"Don't be a   dx^3/dt^3"
but it may be this readership does not have enough physics to decode

Wut? This is first year physics. Don't be a jerk.

 

 

In any case, a code of conduct for sage-flame might be rather
out of place.  What... don't post anything that is too long? Obscene?

Rjf

On 11/24/14 5:50 AM, William Stein wrote:

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Bill Hart <goodwi...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Should we be thinking of introducing a code of conduct for sage-flame as
well. Let's have a vote on the issue:

[ ] Yes, adopt the code of conduct as drafted by Tom Boothby, William Hart
and Richard Fateman (yet to be publicly revealed).
[ ] No, are you kidding me.

Bill.

That code states "Don't be a dick", and Dick (=Richard) is the number
one poster of all time to sage-flame (by far), so it would be very
counterproductive to adopt that code.   :-)

On 20 November 2014 at 20:16, Tom Boothby <tomas....@gmail.com> wrote:

The fitness of this Code may be limited, as I don't feel like I should
post it to sage-devel in its entirety.

Code of Conduct:
1.  Don't be a dick.

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[Tom Boothby]

Drat! My thinly-veiled scheme to insert a trump card into the code of
conduct has been foiled!

[Tom Boothby]

It has come to my attention that "codes" are for nazis and "conduct"
is for neoconformists. I have a new proposal.

The unbreakable cipher of inverse resistance:
AWKZIQQERFPWERTIMXNDKYOWALDMESKRZWIEFTHUEKZRP

I ate the one-time pad.

[Bill Hart]

I feel that sage-flame should be taking more interest in the code-of-conduct, sage-abuse, the highly controversial vote, and the voluminous posting on the issue on sage-devel.

Unfortunately for my own part:

i) I have code to write

ii) I have papers to write

iii) some of the posts on sage-devel are so incendiary that I am not allowed to comment on them due to legal restrictions in my locale

iv) I have been monitoring http://supertart.com/priceofteainchina/ and none of the shenanigans have changed this important measure one iota

The community should take a step back and look at what it is doing to itself. I would propose that the whole issue be shelved for a year until tensions calm down. It's currently a train wreck headed for a disaster zone.

I liked the original Sage code-of-conduct, "send me a patch".

Bill.

[William Stein]

On Nov 29, 2014 3:37 AM, "Bill Hart" <goodwi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> I feel that sage-flame should be taking more interest in the code-of-conduct, sage-abuse, the highly controversial vote, and the voluminous posting on the issue on sage-devel.
>
> Unfortunately for my own part:
>
> i) I have code to write
> ii) I have papers to write
> iii) some of the posts on sage-devel are so incendiary that I am not allowed to comment on them due to legal restrictions in my locale
> iv) I have been monitoring http://supertart.com/priceofteainchina/ and none of the shenanigans have changed this important measure one iota
>
> The community should take a step back and look at what it is doing to itself. I would propose that the whole issue be shelved for a year until tensions calm down. It's currently a train wreck headed for a disaster zone.
>
> I liked the original Sage code-of-conduct, "send me a patch".
>

It was "it's easy to do this in sage - just implement it and send me a patch".   I'm not even reading the code of conduct threads anymore at this point.  It's the ultimate example of bike shedding. 

[Nathann Cohen]

> It was "it's easy to do this in sage - just implement it and send me a
> patch". I'm not even reading the code of conduct threads anymore at this
> point. It's the ultimate example of bike shedding.

I don't see what you mean, I found our conversation about the meaning
of 'code' positively enlightening.

Nathann

[Bill Hart]

I'm sure reading transcripts of ecumenical councils is also enlightening. 

Let me know when the heresy trials are over, and who prevails.

[Tom Boothby]

Enlightening... perhaps. Positively? Debatable.

The Wisest Council of Elder Flame Sages has held a debate on The
Unbreakable Cipher of Inverse Resistance (TUCIR)*. Some members of
the Council expressed some concern on the difficulty of interpreting
TUCIR, as the one-time pad was eaten. When it was pointed out that
alternate pads are available to support arbitrary re-interpretation of
TUCIR, it was met with unanimous support.

* prounonuced "tucker", to inspire hunger in aussies, one presumes