Online Data Base of Dynamic Question

[Raniere Gaia Silva]

Hi,

I was searching for a easily and quickly way to make math tests/exercises (I don't want a course management system like moodle or webwork).

Since I didn't find any great solution I start to make one: http://smart-teacher.alwaysdata.net/

would be interested in comments :)
and in which other groups I could discuss it?

Raniere

[MišoLietavec]

Hi, Raniere,

2012/5/20 Raniere Gaia Silva <r.ga...@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> I was searching for a easily and quickly way to make math tests/exercises (I
> don't want a course management system like moodle or webwork).
> Since I didn't find any great solution I start to make
> one: http://smart-teacher.alwaysdata.net/

I always liked the idea of having something like WebWork, but in clear
Python. And not burned in huge LMS.
My colleague is trying something similar in AcroTeX educational bundle
(we make it functioning in Linux).
But your approach has more potential for further development.

> would be interested in comments :)
> and in which other groups I could discuss it?

I think, You can post and discuss things also in python-edu SIG,
http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/



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[Mike]

A few comments that might help with development of these ideas.

WeBWorK is divided into two (perhaps 3 ) parts. WeBWorK2 is an LMS.
The PG language
code provides problem rendering and answer evaluation. PG has a
webservice and is pretty independent of the LMS. For example it
already serves has a handler of advanced mathematics problems for
Moodle.

A little work could completely decouple PG from WeBWorK2 -- and since
it communicates through a web service the new front end could be built
in any language you like. It might be worth looking at some of the
design of the PG section -- in particular the pg/lib/WeBWorK/
Translator.pm module and the use of macros and MathObjects. The
power of the PG rendering and answer evaluation system developed over
the last 16 years would take some time to recreate. On the other hand
the full power may not be needed for every application.

The third part of WeBWorK is the NationalProblemLibrary, an enormous
collection of mathematics problems at all levels from pre-calculus to
ODE and complex variables, generously donated over the last decade by
mathematics instructors. It has been only lightly curated (an ongoing
problem) so the quality varies.

While it would be relatively easy to replace the LMS with one written
in a different language it would be somewhat more difficult to rewrite
PG and I think nearly impossible to duplicate or translate the 20K
problems in the NPL. The best approach there would be to use a perl
interpreter embedded in another language such as Ruby or Python.

Mike Gage
https://webwork.maa.org/wiki

On May 21, 1:23 am, MišoLietavec <frca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Raniere,
>

> 2012/5/20 Raniere Gaia Silva <r.gaia...@gmail.com>:

>
> > Hi,
>
> > I was searching for a easily and quickly way to make math tests/exercises (I
> > don't want a course management system like moodle or webwork).
> > Since I didn't find any great solution I start to make
> > one: http://smart-teacher.alwaysdata.net/
>
> I always liked the idea of having something like WebWork, but in clear
> Python. And not burned in huge LMS.
> My colleague is trying something similar in AcroTeX educational bundle
> (we make it functioning in Linux).
> But your approach has more potential for further development.
>
> > would be interested in comments :)
> > and in which other groups I could discuss it?
>

> I think, You can post and discuss things also in python-edu SIG,http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/

[Raniere Gaia Silva]

Thanks for all comments.

MišoLietavec,

there is some way to I take a look in what your colleague is trying?

Raniere

[Pedro Cruz]

Hi Raniere 

we are developing and using a package for that purpose for sage notebook and for command-line. It's a different approach to the "online database of dynamic questions". Templates are not yet translated to english (only portuguese) and instalations tests must be done.  

Your web interface  seems to be very appealing and maybe we could integrate or use your ideas if integration is not feasible.

Our project is at:

code: http://code.google.com/p/megua/

docs (english):  http://megua.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html

home (portuguese): cms.ua.pt/megua

all for now.

Pedro

[Raniere Gaia Silva]

Hi Pedro,

I'm very happy with your answer and agree that "maybe we could integrate or use your ideas if integration is not feasible". (Maybe you like this project: http://m3.ime.unicamp.br/)

This weekend I will that a deeper look in your project and soon give more news. (I'm a undergraduate student of applied math at UNICAMP, Brazil - SP, so portuguses is not a problem for me).

Raniere