sagemath.org issues

[John H Palmieri]

I am having a problem with sagemath.org: the Download button on the
first page now links to http://sagemath.org/download-mac.html, not the
general download page. Is this intentional?

Along these lines, when might binaries be posted for 3.1.1, and when
will the on-line documentation be updated?

Thanks,
John

[Harald Schilly]

On Aug 20, 5:03 am, John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... now links to http://sagemath.org/download-mac.html, not the

> general download page. Is this intentional?

Yes, as long as you have a mac, this is not a bug but a feature. The
remaining parts of the download page will be there, too. Those and
some others are the next steps to make it easier to download. You can
get the general download page right below the "mac download" link
(where it says "other systems") or the downlaod link in the main menu.

>
> Along these lines, when might binaries be posted for 3.1.1, and when
> will the on-line documentation be updated?

This should happen at the same moment, once all binares are ready.

H

[Robert Bradshaw]

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Harald Schilly wrote:

>
> On Aug 20, 5:03 am, John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ... now links to http://sagemath.org/download-mac.html, not the
>> general download page. Is this intentional?
>
> Yes, as long as you have a mac, this is not a bug but a feature. The
> remaining parts of the download page will be there, too. Those and
> some others are the next steps to make it easier to download. You can
> get the general download page right below the "mac download" link
> (where it says "other systems") or the downlaod link in the main menu.

It would be nice if one could download it right from that page, rather
than detecting that one has a mac, but then having to naviagete several
levels of the bin directories anyways (which was the whole point of
auto-direction, right?).

- Robert

[Harald Schilly]

On Aug 20, 8:49 pm, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu>
wrote:
>
> It would be nice if one could download it right from that page...

True, but things aren't that easy. First, it should work without
javascript (or two ways as a fallback if disabled, therefore I focus
on a non-javascript solution), there are mirrors to keep care of -
since not all of them are always up to date. e.g. it's more annoying
to provide direct links that end in a 404-not-found error and a
disappointed user than searching in a directory (at least I think
so!). I also can't check this using javascript, because of the strict
same origin policies in webbrowsers. Those websites where this is much
more elegant, use dynamic dns (we don't have this) and a proxy system
at each mirror for monitoring (they call home and tell the master what
they serve). And last but not least, there is no dynamic part running
on the server that could help either. For example, I would be happy to
embed the whole website into gwt and tomcat/jsp/whatever to make it
dynamic, but this is not so easy maintainable and wouldn't solve
everything either.
This direct link to that os-specific page is also only the first step.
My next task is to create a direct index file for all subdirectories,
also one in the mirrors, and links to the direct directory listings to
check if something is missing or otherwise wrong.

If you have better ideas or more experience, I'm open for any
suggestions ;)

H

[Nils Bruin]

Would it be possible to have the "download source" file referred to on
the linux download page as well? Right now, one has to go to "other
systems" first, which felt rather counterintuitive.

[Harald Schilly]

On Aug 21, 8:20 pm, Nils Bruin <nbr...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> Would it be possible to have the "download source" file referred to on
> the linux download page as well?

yes yes yes, i had to do an animation now. my idea is to transfer the
lower part of the download page into a template and insert it at all
system specific pages. so, your problem is solved, and also dvd and
live cd ;)

h