Silent mode for make and quiet mode for configure

[Samuel Lelievre]

Dear sage-devel, 

A technical question re building Sage from source.

Having set `make` to silent mode eg using

    MAKE='make -s V=0'

one would expect that in cases in which `make` or

`make distclean` calls `./configure`, it would call it

in quiet mode: `./configure -q`.

Is there some way to enforce that?

[Matthias Koeppe]

That's a nice idea, please open a ticket for it

[Samuel Lelièvre]

Thanks, I opened a ticket:

- Have configure run quiet if started by make in silent mode
https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30258

2020-07-30 22:13 UTC, Matthias Koeppe:

[Samuel Lelievre]

Somewhat related:

- does `sage -i` have a quiet mode?

- does sage-patchbot have a quiet mode?

- does binary-pkg have a quiet mode?

[Matthias Koeppe]

On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 5:47:58 PM UTC-7, Samuel Lelievre wrote:

- does `sage -i` have a quiet mode?

V=0 sage -i SPKG

(it goes through make) 

[Samuel Lelievre]

Does `bootstrap` have a quiet mode?

Trying `./bootstrap -q` failed, printing this line:

```

Usage: ./bootstrap [-d|-D|-s] [-u <URL>] [-h]

```

How can I learn about what the various possible

options (-d, -D, -s, -u <URL>, -h) do?

[Dima Pasechnik]

learn shell language and read the source :-P

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[Samuel Lelievre]

Thanks. The relevant portions of the `bootstrap` script are:

```

usage () {

    echo >&2 "Usage: $0 [-d|-D|-s] [-u <URL>] [-h]"

}

```

```

# Parse options

SAVE=no

DOWNLOAD=no

ALWAYSDOWNLOAD=no

CONFTARBALL_URL=""

while getopts "Ddshu:" OPTION

do

     case "$OPTION" in

         D) ALWAYSDOWNLOAD=yes; DOWNLOAD=yes;;

         d) DOWNLOAD=yes;;

         s) SAVE=yes;;

         u) CONFTARBALL_URL="$OPTARG"; ALWAYSDOWNLOAD=yes; DOWNLOAD=yes;;

         h) usage; exit 0;;

         ?) usage; exit 2;;

     esac

done

CONFBALL="upstream/configure-$CONFVERSION.tar.gz"

```

No quiet or silent mode; `-s` is for "save", not "silent".

Conclusion: sorry for all the noise about the quiet.

Bootstrap does not make that much noise anyway.

Here are two tickets that would enable some more quiet:

- Have configure run quiet if started by make in silent mode

  https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30258

- Let `./configure --enable-silent-rules` default to `make V=0`

  https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21589

I'll try to follow some suggested approaches there, or

carefully read the solution if someone else solves it.

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 2020-09-08 14:34, Samuel Lelievre wrote:
>
> No quiet or silent mode; `-s` is for "save", not "silent".
>
> Conclusion: sorry for all the noise about the quiet.
>
> Bootstrap does not make that much noise anyway.
>

We could pretty easily add a -q (quiet) flag to ./bootstrap if it would
improve your quality of life. Mostly it involves not running `echo` in a
few places, and passing "-s" to "$(MAKE) bootstrap-clean". The only
thing remotely tricky would be to filter the

configure.ac:$LINENO: installing <file>

output from "automake --add-missing", which apparently has no quiet mode
itself.

[Samuel Lelievre]

2020-09-08 20:52:39 UTC, Michael Orlitzky:

>
> We could pretty easily add a -q (quiet) flag to ./bootstrap if it would
> improve your quality of life. Mostly it involves not running `echo` in a
> few places, and passing "-s" to "$(MAKE) bootstrap-clean". The only
> thing remotely tricky would be to filter the
>
>   configure.ac:$LINENO: installing <file>
>
> output from "automake --add-missing", which apparently has no quiet mode
> itself.

Thanks for offering this, I opened a ticket for it:

- Add a quiet mode for bootstrap
  https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30533

And it would be nice if bootstrap would run with -q
when V=0 or when called by configure run with -q,
but that could be part of the other two tickets:

[Samuel Lelievre]

Related quality-of-life ticket, for completeness:

- "make distclean" should not run "./configure"
  https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29310