Even in the current implementation you need to press a mouse button before you can drag the view around. So I don't quite understand what is different in the new jmol. Can you elaborate on that?
What should be avoided is that you first have to press&release mouse button before you can press again & drag. At least not without any visual feedback that the first mouse click changed any state. If, say, some arrows appear then it would be fine imho.
On Monday, June 11, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote:Even in the current implementation you need to press a mouse button before you can drag the view around. So I don't quite understand what is different in the new jmol. Can you elaborate on that?In the new implementation, there is a static image at the start - not the case before. To get a "live" image, one has to click on a button which says something like "Sleeping - make interactive" or something, wait for the Jmol to load up, and then start dragging etc.
The new implementation definitely deserves a +1. On a local server it is not so obvious, but loading jmol applets takes a long time when running it remotely.
Looks much better! I have no problems with it requiring the extra click, assuming it generates the still image fairly quickly. Is the viewing angle for the still customizable? Will it still behave the old way in the terminal?
Looks much better! I have no problems with it requiring the extra click, assuming it generates the still image fairly quickly. Is the viewing angle for the still customizable? Will it still behave the old way in the terminal?
On Monday, June 11, 2012 8:16:07 PM UTC-4, Eviatar wrote:Looks much better! I have no problems with it requiring the extra click, assuming it generates the still image fairly quickly. Is the viewing angle for the still customizable? Will it still behave the old way in the terminal?Eviatar and ppurka, if you're using Linux, could you try out the test server linked at #12299 and just report how things work with FF and/or other browsers on it? (I suppose the FF clones would be useful, since they sometimes have Java issues, though I don't know if it's worth trying to fix.)
I would also say that high quality should be turned on by default, the plots look so much better. I also shared a worksheet with you (kcrisman) which had several 3d plots that you can test (we used it here a couple of months ago).
I would also say that high quality should be turned on by default, the plots look so much better. I also shared a worksheet with you (kcrisman) which had several 3d plots that you can test (we used it here a couple of months ago).I agree about the high quality, and have already mentioned that on the ticket, though I assume there is some technical reason not to do so.
The applet does work on IcedTea 6, but some of the mesh and color options don't, as I mentioned. But yes, I'll try out Java 6 and see how that goes.
Can you set the plot to any colour on your end? Because I thought it was strange that it only works with light colours.
The plots work on firefox-10 but doesn't work on the current stable or unstable version of opera. this is on 64bit gentoo linux. I will some more tests later tomorrow on a ubuntu 12.04 (64bit).
Test server at http://gutow.no-ip.org:8080 is up again.
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:31:27 PM UTC-5, Eviatar wrote:The applet does work on IcedTea 6, but some of the mesh and color options don't, as I mentioned. But yes, I'll try out Java 6 and see how that goes.I may have to try it again. IcedTea is definitely improving if your experience is any indication.
Testing on Win 7:IE7: Static image displays. Clicking on the make interactive button gives the warning dialog about "many" of the advanced features not working and that the user should change browsers. Then nothing happens. The javascript that launches the applet seems to be ignored. It fails completely silently, with no errors in the console. I don't know how to begin tracing this problem. I think it is probably a total loss for using the applet in IE at this point.
From my perspective as a Java application developer, the Oracle Java is theofficial version and we work hard to maintain compatibility with that. Itis up to the IcedTea people to have IcedTea be equivalent.
I'm glad Javascript developers don't have that perspective...
I have set up my test server to default to high quality (antialiasing). Test it out.The answer to Jason's question is "yes". The antialiasing causes white speckles in regions of high contrast change. That was another reason to start with it off. The easiest way to see this is to plot a surface. Turn on the black mess and start it spinning. Then toggle the "high quality" on and off.
surface. Turn on the black mess and start it spinning. Then toggle the "high quality" on and off.Wow, it's sort of mesmerizing.I'm a little torn. The speckles are definitely distracting, if of potential value for hypnosis.