Problem reading this list with slrn

[Simon King]

Hi!

I prefer reading all SageMath-related groups with slrn, via news.gmane.org. However, since a few days, I always get this:

king@klap:~$ slrn
slrn 1.0.2

Loading /usr/share/slrn/slang/slrn.sl
Reading startup file /etc/news/slrn.rc.
Reading startup file /home/king/.slrnrc.
Loading /usr/share/slrn/slang/mime.sl***Warning: Unable to find a unique fully-qualified host name.
            slrn will not generate any Message-IDs.
            Please note that the "hostname" setting does not affect this;
            see the "slrn reference manual" for details.

Using newsrc file /home/king/.jnewsrc for server news.gmane.org.
Connecting to host news.gmane.org ...
Unable to make connection. Giving up.

Run-Time Error
slrn fatal error:
Failed to initialize server.

Do you happen to know whether I can solve that problem on my end? Or whether the list administrator can do something about it? Or is news.gmane.org simply dead?

Best regards,

Simon

[Dima Pasechnik]

try news.gmane.io

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[Dima Pasechnik]

the story is here, in fact:

https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/06/whatever-happened-to-news-gmane-org/

[Simon King]

Hi Dima,

On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 9:08:54 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:

the story is here, in fact:

https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/06/whatever-happened-to-news-gmane-org/

 Thank you!

As it seems, the only mentioning of "news.gmane" in my home directory in a file whose name starts with "." is in .bashrc. However, changing

  export NNTPSERVER="news.gmane.org"

to

  export NNTPSERVER="news.gmane.io"

and sourcing .bashrc did not solve the problem. I still get "Failed to initialize server." --- but indeed it mentions news.gmane.io instead of news.gmane.org.

So, what else can I do?

Best regards,

Simon

[Dima Pasechnik]

Hi Simon,

one can also do all the communication with google groups via email.
For this, of course, it's desirable to have an archive of all the
messages in a mail reader format.
There are various downloaders of messages from google groups available
to create such an
archive, e.g. https://github.com/icy/google-group-crawler

Perhaps we should create such archives for all sage- groups, host them
on sagemath.org
and update them regularly?

Dima

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[Dima Pasechnik]

In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> one can also do all the communication with google groups via email.
> For this, of course, it's desirable to have an archive of all the
> messages in a mail reader format.
> There are various downloaders of messages from google groups available
> to create such an
> archive, e.g. https://github.com/icy/google-group-crawler
>
> Perhaps we should create such archives for all sage- groups, host them
> on sagemath.org
> and update them regularly?

test with news.gmane.io server

>
> Dima
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:22 PM Simon King <simon...@uni-jena.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dima,
>>
>> On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 9:08:54 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>
>>> the story is here, in fact:
>>> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2020/01/06/whatever-happened-to-news-gmane-org/
>>
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> As it seems, the only mentioning of "news.gmane" in my home directory in a file whose name starts with "." is in .bashrc. However, changing
>> export NNTPSERVER="news.gmane.org"
>> to
>> export NNTPSERVER="news.gmane.io"
>> and sourcing .bashrc did not solve the problem. I still get "Failed to initialize server." --- but indeed it mentions news.gmane.io instead of news.gmane.org.
>>
>> So, what else can I do?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Simon
>>
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[Dima Pasechnik]

In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote:
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I am replying to this message via slrn :-)
I've started it as

$ NNTPSERVER=news.gmane.io slrn

and it is all there
(this is a email reply to sage-...@googlegroups.com, NNTP followup doesn't seem to work, but it was
already the case, anyway; one gets there by hitting r (reply) in slrn
interface)

Dima

>
> Best regards,
> Simon
>
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[Simon King]

Dear Dima,

Indeed it now works. I didn't change anything, just tried again.

So, problem solved...

Thank you!
Simon