A leader is...

[bunnyc...@aol.com]

  A good leader is someone who is a role model and who takes charge. He or she acts upon justice and wants the best for everybody. What do you mean by '' he will rule depth?'' He will have control and not let others fall behind because everyone is equal, special and important. He or she knows what they are doing with rules, people, and their future. They know what they are talking about. Excellent leaders make change the world for the good!

 

 

-Kendall

[Tanya Voytus]

Kendall,

I think you got the qualities of a good leader nailed down. It would
be ideal if the leader could always make everyone happy. What happens,
though, when the right decision doesn't make all the citizens happy?
How would a good leader act in that scenario? Is it more important the
leader make everyone happy, or run the city or state in such a way
that it flourishes?

I'd love to hear your thoughts on these questions!

Ms. V.

[Lexie]

As nerdy as this may be, when I think of a leader, I think of Aragorn
from Lord of the Rings. When he became the king of Gondor, he planted
a seed of the trees of Valor that had been destroyed by a dark spirit
and the Lord of Darkness. Not only that but he was a true king to the
people of Gondor because he was a healer, and they say that healing
hands make a true king. I just think that a true ruler is humble and
kind. And yeah, they need to keep order but maybe if they were fair,
noone would want to rebel. That's maybe a bit naive, and I am talking
about a fictional universe, but maybe having high standards for
kindness and respect is a good thing.

[Stephen Fischer]

A good leader is someone who keeps his city or state in his mind and
his people at heart. I mean that the leader combines what the people
want and what is best for the city or state so that he/she has the
best of both worlds. The citizens make up that specific place and
without them, what do you have? You can't make every single citizen
happy, it's impossible. But, you have to make sure that place
flourishes to the point where you're safe. That leader knows that even
know if he/she makes a terrible decision, how you resolve it is what
counts. A true leader isn't power-hungry and who seeks war. To me, a
true leader is someone who is kind and respectable, yet humble and
honest.

[Tanya Voytus]

Lexie,

As nerdy as this may sound, I think your Aragorn example is great. I think you're right - benevolence and fairness are something that a leader needs to exhibit even in times of hardship. So do you think that governmental structure - a monarchy - is the right way to go? Or is there something to be said for a democracy - giving the citizens a say?

Great job,

Ms. V.

[Tanya Voytus]

Interesting post, Stephen. I think you make a valid point about balance. Which do you think is more important, though - keeping the citizens happy or running an efficient state? I think a true leader is shown at those times when a balance can't be struck, so what do you think a good leader would do when the interests of the citizens and the state conflict?

Well done,

Ms. V.

[Lexie]

Sorry to be posting at 11:30 at night. This is when I always remember
to check my email. >.<
I don't think monarchies have ever really worked out. I mean, a lot of
conquering went down, a lot of bloodshed, but I kind of hate that. In
fact, I really hate that. I'm all for the Celts and the Native
Americans. I know they weren't perfect, either. I don't mean to
romanticize, but a lot of governments seem to become overrun by greed.
Not to say that I don't think government is important, because people
do need order. Or maybe just a good influence. I think a leader should
be a good influence, I guess. I'm pretty realistic, but I try to be
optimistic about what we can do as humans, peace-wise and you know
universal love, all that jazz. So, I would hope that there could one
day be a democracy like Gondor or a peaceful place like Rivendel. In
my wildest dreams, our world could be Lord of the Rings.

On Dec 11, 7:12 pm, Tanya Voytus <ms.voy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lexie,
>
> As nerdy as this may sound, I think your Aragorn example is great. I think
> you're right - benevolence and fairness are something that a leader needs
> to exhibit even in times of hardship. So do you think that governmental
> structure - a monarchy - is the right way to go? Or is there something to
> be said for a democracy - giving the citizens a say?
>
> Great job,
>
> Ms. V.

[Dylan]

I think the entire population is run by fear and greed , not just the government

[Tanya Voytus]

Your mention of the Celts and Native Americans is interesting. Both were organized into small groups. Do you think that maybe it's easier / better to separate government into smaller groups?

[Lexie]

Honestly, I think the Celts & Native Americans did pretty well before
government. They may not have had "civilizations", at least not the
Celtic tribes. The Celts did have a hand in the shaping of a lot of
civilizations though. But I just think that the Native Americans & the
Celts who were living off the land and hunting and minding their own
business, survived without doing their land any harm for thousands of
years. That's more than we can say. I mean, these people may have
fought each other, but they had respect for more than just humans. I
think that's something we're lacking.
But to answer your question, I believe that living off the land, and
not owning land, just being a part of Nature, doesn't give greed much
of a chance. I don't know if we need rulers. I don't know if I really
agree with one, or ten, or twenty people holding all of the power. I
like the idea of tribes. People can decide where they feel that they
belong. Most of the Celts & the Native American tribes were very
alike, but their few differences made them into a separate, cohesive
tribe. Yeah, maybe we should all be able to get along as one big
family, but we all need to find our own place to belong. A place where
people understand us. Where no one will judge us.

On Dec 12, 11:55 pm, Tanya Voytus <ms.voy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your mention of the Celts and Native Americans is interesting. Both were
> organized into small groups. Do you think that maybe it's easier / better
> to separate government into smaller groups?

[Tanya Voytus]

Interesting. Do you think that there's something to be said for the advances we have been able to make as a large society? Clearly, we have done damage to the land, but what about the medical and technological advances that we have made? We can instantly communicate with people across the world. We can prolong a person's life who otherwise would have died from cancer. A lot that we have accomplished we have been able to do so because of the large community that we reside in. The idea of tribes is very appealing because it allows the individual to find a place that he / she is most comfortable and accepted. However, the power of a tribe will be limited by its small size.

[Lexie]

Yeah, I agree. My dad has diabetes. Without the advances we've made,
he wouldn't be here. That's why sometimes it's hard for me because I
do feel really torn between Nature and humanity. I guess I just wish
that there was more of a way to balance the two. A perfect world to me
would maybe be small cities and small towns and market places. Just
nothing in excess. I wouldn't know how to make that happen though with
all of the variables that come into play in modern times. The tribe
idea is a little intense, and maybe too primal. Sometimes I just feel
like there's too much of almost everything. It's very overwhelming. I
think what I've been trying to say this whole time is that a good
ruler doesn't just keep human interests in mind, but also makes nature
and animals important too. I don't want to be living in a tree or
anything, I just wish there was more respect and more places that are
quiet. My dream world could never work in the real world. The reason
why Lord of the Rings could work was because they were magical elves
with healing powers. We're just humans.

On Dec 13, 10:17 pm, Tanya Voytus <ms.voy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting. Do you think that there's something to be said for the
> advances we have been able to make as a large society? Clearly, we have
> done damage to the land, but what about the medical and technological
> advances that we have made? We can instantly communicate with people across
> the world. We can prolong a person's life who otherwise would have died
> from cancer. A lot that we have accomplished we have been able to do so
> because of the large community that we reside in. The idea of tribes is
> very appealing because it allows the individual to find a place that he /
> she is most comfortable and accepted. However, the power of a tribe will be
> limited by its small size.
>

[Lexie]

*Doesn't just keep human interests in mind* was what I meant to say.

[Tanya Voytus]

Look up something called "garden cities". I think you'll enjoy it.

[Lexie]

http://scodpub.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/howard3b.jpg
I really, really like that idea.

On Dec 14, 3:03 pm, Tanya Voytus <ms.voy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Look up something called "garden cities". I think you'll enjoy it.

[Alexis Pareja]

Lexi I think your dream world can work. There are places and cultures that exist around the world that maintain a simple life without being primal in any way. Societies are currently experiencing a paradigm shift which is why we see a large advent of protests arising. Hopefully there will be a positive result; there are many individuals everywhere that don't agree with model that is built on acquisition and urban sprawl. It has only shown that if we continue with our current flawed systems they will only implode and renew themselves.  
 

> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:49:47 -0800
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[Lexie]

Thanks for saying that, Mr. P! I've been hoping that something will
come of all of the protests (other than violence). I hope there will
be people with power who will actually care to make big changes. I
also hope that we can take back alot of the harm we've done. Who
knows.

On Dec 15, 8:43 am, Alexis Pareja <alexis.par...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lexi I think your dream world can work. There are places and cultures that exist around the world that maintain a simple life without being primal in any way. Societies are currently experiencing a paradigm shift which is why we see a large advent of protests arising. Hopefully there will be a positive result; there are many individuals everywhere that don't agree with model that is built on acquisition and urban sprawl. It has only shown that if we continue with our current flawed systems they will only implode and renew themselves.
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