Should we be the Sacramento Polyglot Programmers?

[Steve]

Hi Gents!

I spoke with David yesterday and he had an interesting idea.  As we are all working on different languages and different platforms, some that run on the JVM and some that don't, might it make more sense to broaden our group to be a polyglot language and platforms group?  This would open up the possibility of doing talks on just about anything, but including platforms like Ruby, JavaScript, Go, C++ (that's for you Brian).  We've also morphed a bit as a group over the last 5 years where many of our members have broadened their use of different languages and tools as we've aged and gained experience.  Although this clearly includes Alternative JVM languages it obviously includes languages not on the JVM as well. 

And just imagine the Acronym?  SacPP?  Who doesn't love that?  Well we might need to work on that a bit...

Let me know what you think.  We can discuss it on here and at the next meeting.

-Steve

[Ed Gibbs]

+1 for me

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[Tom Parker]

Yeah, the name Groovy is too limited for what we actually cover. I was going to bring up that we should really push the alternative JVM language, but polyglot is just as well. With my stake being in Java, I'd favor JVM languages, but would mind if it was broader.

And I am interested in a a couple talks. The first one would be about web frameworks in Immutant(Clojure) and/or Yesod(Haskell). Also WebMachine looks very interesting. I am just looking into them and have to get up to speed on both the framework and language enough to do a simple intro to them.

Tom

[Steven Holmes]

Very cool!  Well unless the core members changes dramatically we will continue to be fairly JVM focused.  But we all use or have used Ruby, JavaScript, etc.  And I would love to hear more about the Go language.  Haskell is another I'd love to know more about.  Even if you aren't using Ruby specifically you might be using Ruby tools like SASS.

There is a new Groovy tool called Grain for static website generation.  It has dependencies on Ruby and Python.  So it might be a cool one to talk about soon.  We could look into using it for our NEW WEBSITE.

Steve Holmes

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[Brian Lavender]

You could throw Xamarian studio into the mix. /o\

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:45:49AM -0700, Steven Holmes wrote:
> Very cool! Well unless the core members changes dramatically we will
> continue to be fairly JVM focused. But we all use or have used Ruby,
> JavaScript, etc. And I would love to hear more about the Go language.
> Haskell is another I'd love to know more about. Even if you aren't
> using Ruby specifically you might be using Ruby tools like SASS.
> There is a new Groovy tool called Grain for static website generation.
> It has dependencies on Ruby and Python. So it might be a cool one to
> talk about soon. We could look into using it for our NEW WEBSITE.
>

> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Tom Parker <[1]tpar...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> Yeah, the name Groovy is too limited for what we actually cover. I was
> going to bring up that we should really push the alternative JVM
> language, but polyglot is just as well. With my stake being in Java,
> I'd favor JVM languages, but would mind if it was broader.
> And I am interested in a a couple talks. The first one would be about
> web frameworks in Immutant(Clojure) and/or Yesod(Haskell). Also
> WebMachine looks very interesting. I am just looking into them and have
> to get up to speed on both the framework and language enough to do a
> simple intro to them.
> Tom
>

> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Ed Gibbs <[2]edward...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 for me

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Steve <[3]iamstev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Gents!
> I spoke with David yesterday and he had an interesting idea. As we are
> all working on different languages and different platforms, some that
> run on the JVM and some that don't, might it make more sense to broaden
> our group to be a polyglot language and platforms group? This would
> open up the possibility of doing talks on just about anything, but
> including platforms like Ruby, JavaScript, Go, C++ (that's for you
> Brian). We've also morphed a bit as a group over the last 5 years
> where many of our members have broadened their use of different
> languages and tools as we've aged and gained experience. Although this
> clearly includes Alternative JVM languages it obviously includes
> languages not on the JVM as well.
> And just imagine the Acronym? SacPP? Who doesn't love that? Well we
> might need to work on that a bit...
> Let me know what you think. We can discuss it on here and at the next
> meeting.
> -Steve
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[Steven Holmes]

Wow harsh and bitter laughter, Brian!

I'd be happy to let MS folks talk.  It would be interesting to see what they are up to.

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[Chris Bedford]

Hi, Steve, Ed, Brian M,  Tom,  other old pals -

hope you guys are well.  one comment.     Ruby is JVM-able  (JRuby !)     Javascript is JVM-able  (Rhino !)       -   you can certainly keep the JVM focus and still cover a lot of ground.      (jython, scala, closure, and the list goes on and on)

 look forward to catching one of your talks when i'm in sac area.

cb

Chris Bedford

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[Steven Holmes]

Don't forget Nashorn and DynJS.  Who doesn't want to run Node on the JVM (me)?

[Aria Kraft]

Erjang or Elixir anyone?

[Mike Jackson]

If you want to play with Haskel there's a pretty decent web IDE on the https://www.fpcomplete.com/ site.  They have a paid and a freebie side of things.

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