Appleseed: Deus Ex Machina - Roundtable
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JiggaJonVilla
May 20, 2008, 5:17:34 PM5/20/08
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For those of you who have seen this movie. Take a few sentences (or
more if you'd like) to share your feelings of it.
more if you'd like) to share your feelings of it.
DevilsHood35
May 20, 2008, 5:23:31 PM5/20/08
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Let's see here........
In my honest opinion, I believe that if you sit back and watch the
movie from the standpoint of visual asthetics (aka - the combination
of cgi and anime) the movie is rather spectacular. In my "deeper
message" opinion, the movie was quite lacking in regards to a story
line. I remember that throughout the entire movie, all of us that were
watching were noticing verbally similarities to other popular movies.
This made it very standard, and not anything that really stands out in
my mind as worth adding to the collection.
The remake of the first one (where they incorporate cgi) is still my
favorite.
-Tim O.
In my honest opinion, I believe that if you sit back and watch the
movie from the standpoint of visual asthetics (aka - the combination
of cgi and anime) the movie is rather spectacular. In my "deeper
message" opinion, the movie was quite lacking in regards to a story
line. I remember that throughout the entire movie, all of us that were
watching were noticing verbally similarities to other popular movies.
This made it very standard, and not anything that really stands out in
my mind as worth adding to the collection.
The remake of the first one (where they incorporate cgi) is still my
favorite.
-Tim O.
JiggaJonVilla
May 20, 2008, 6:29:13 PM5/20/08
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Agreed. The beauty of this movie's visuals distract from the quality
of the film overall. I'm a sucker for a good action movie. I can
watch a bad movie with good fight scenes (40% of anything John Woo
touches) and call the movie entertaining. In Deus Ex Machina's case,
I was decently entertained. The story itself was very simple, with
obvious plot-holes. For instance, why didn't the government do a
strict (punishable by law) recall of those funky headsets that turn
normal citizens into mindless terrorist zombies? They issue a ban,
and accept the fact that most people won't comply. That's either lazy
writing, or they just needed a reason for another gunfest. Now, jump
to the next action scene and I'm happy again! Sometimes when you're
expecting simple and you get simple, simple is just fine.
It seems the premise had potential for some interesting interactions.
It was almost a film-realization of that stereotypical insecure
girlfriend question, "If you met someone who looked and acted exactly
like me except she was 10 times prettier, would you leave me for
her?" Basically, Briareos gets cloned and the newer model actually
looks like the man Deuter fell in love with (rather than an oversized
cyborg with bunny ears). In our reality, this question would have to
remain purely hypothetical. In the Appleseed universe, this is a
question that must be answered.
As Deuter, would it be right to stay with the original or does it
really matter? As the cyborg Briareos, would it be right to hold
Deuter to being faithful to you, knowing that his other self would
treat her just as well AND can offer a more normal existence as a
couple? As the humanoid Briareos, at what point does he stop
suppressing his attraction? Is he really impeding on anything if
Deuter's essentially with the same person?
The set-up was there, but this question was largely avoided so that a
"happy" we can all co-exist together and ignore this problem
completely because we three are honorable and we make a good team.
From what I could tell, the theme of the movie was centered around the
interactions between naturally and artificially created souls. This
theme was most specifically present in the 3 main protagonists, but
their drama was never completely explored for the sake of simplicity.
This was the most disappointing void in the movie.
At times anime can be heavily philosophical and borderline convoluted,
it was unusual to see one that was almost as dumbed down as a
Hollywood blockbuster - complete with mediocre love sub-plot, multiple
explosions, and the always necessary happy ending. Somewhere in the
middle is ideal for me (I actually enjoyed the entire Matrix Trilogy),
but plot-wise, this Appleseed is not very close to the ideal.
Nevertheless, this movie was saved for me by pure eye-candy.
Conclusion: Jaw-dropping, adrenaline-pumping visuals depict a
potentially deep, yet poorly executed plot.
of the film overall. I'm a sucker for a good action movie. I can
watch a bad movie with good fight scenes (40% of anything John Woo
touches) and call the movie entertaining. In Deus Ex Machina's case,
I was decently entertained. The story itself was very simple, with
obvious plot-holes. For instance, why didn't the government do a
strict (punishable by law) recall of those funky headsets that turn
normal citizens into mindless terrorist zombies? They issue a ban,
and accept the fact that most people won't comply. That's either lazy
writing, or they just needed a reason for another gunfest. Now, jump
to the next action scene and I'm happy again! Sometimes when you're
expecting simple and you get simple, simple is just fine.
It seems the premise had potential for some interesting interactions.
It was almost a film-realization of that stereotypical insecure
girlfriend question, "If you met someone who looked and acted exactly
like me except she was 10 times prettier, would you leave me for
her?" Basically, Briareos gets cloned and the newer model actually
looks like the man Deuter fell in love with (rather than an oversized
cyborg with bunny ears). In our reality, this question would have to
remain purely hypothetical. In the Appleseed universe, this is a
question that must be answered.
As Deuter, would it be right to stay with the original or does it
really matter? As the cyborg Briareos, would it be right to hold
Deuter to being faithful to you, knowing that his other self would
treat her just as well AND can offer a more normal existence as a
couple? As the humanoid Briareos, at what point does he stop
suppressing his attraction? Is he really impeding on anything if
Deuter's essentially with the same person?
The set-up was there, but this question was largely avoided so that a
"happy" we can all co-exist together and ignore this problem
completely because we three are honorable and we make a good team.
From what I could tell, the theme of the movie was centered around the
interactions between naturally and artificially created souls. This
theme was most specifically present in the 3 main protagonists, but
their drama was never completely explored for the sake of simplicity.
This was the most disappointing void in the movie.
At times anime can be heavily philosophical and borderline convoluted,
it was unusual to see one that was almost as dumbed down as a
Hollywood blockbuster - complete with mediocre love sub-plot, multiple
explosions, and the always necessary happy ending. Somewhere in the
middle is ideal for me (I actually enjoyed the entire Matrix Trilogy),
but plot-wise, this Appleseed is not very close to the ideal.
Nevertheless, this movie was saved for me by pure eye-candy.
Conclusion: Jaw-dropping, adrenaline-pumping visuals depict a
potentially deep, yet poorly executed plot.
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