Bypass a GFCI outlet...
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Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 1:43:28 PM4/15/13
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Howdy...
Anyone know how to bypass a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter)
breaker in an outlet without re-wiring the outlet ?
Is it at all possible ?
For now, I guess I'll buy an extension cord and hook it up to one of the
outlets in the living room.
Don't think outlets inside need GFCI breakers and I don't think I have a
central one.
Any way to check if the outlet is GFCI protected ?
Anyhow, if I would like to bring my new toy to the hackerspace for a
demonstration, do we have any outlets without GFCI breakers ?
/Fredrik
Anyone know how to bypass a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter)
breaker in an outlet without re-wiring the outlet ?
Is it at all possible ?
For now, I guess I'll buy an extension cord and hook it up to one of the
outlets in the living room.
Don't think outlets inside need GFCI breakers and I don't think I have a
central one.
Any way to check if the outlet is GFCI protected ?
Anyhow, if I would like to bring my new toy to the hackerspace for a
demonstration, do we have any outlets without GFCI breakers ?
/Fredrik
Jeremy Z
Apr 15, 2013, 1:45:14 PM4/15/13
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Is your new toy something that involves high voltage?
-Jeremy
/Fredrik
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Nick Borko
Apr 15, 2013, 1:50:02 PM4/15/13
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You can't bypass a GCFI, that's sort of the point :) They are usually found indoors where moisture can short an outlet, but sometimes they are on a central GFCI breaker, or inline with a remote GFCI outlet. If you're on a GCFI breaker, there's nothing you can do. You can replace individual outlets, but be aware that an outlet in one location may affect GFCI protection in another. Also, make sure you're not violating your local building codes.
Nick
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Don Davis
Apr 15, 2013, 2:12:09 PM4/15/13
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Yeah. That's kind of scary. They're there (the outlets) because the
breaker alone wouldn't be quick enough to stop you from electrocuting
yourself (or others) with water on the circuit.
The gfci is most likely in the kitchen, next to a faucet, in the
bathroom, etc. They cost more than normal outlets so it wasn't added for
giggles.
If you replace it with a non-gfci you will be in violation of almost any
electrical code anywhere.
On 04/15/2013 12:50 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of Nicholas Borko wrote:
> You can't bypass a GCFI, that's sort of the point :) They are usually
> found indoors where moisture can short an outlet, but sometimes they are
> on a central GFCI breaker, or inline with a remote GFCI outlet. If
> you're on a GCFI breaker, there's nothing you can do. You can replace
> individual outlets, but be aware that an outlet in one location may
> affect GFCI protection in another. Also, make sure you're not violating
> your local building codes.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of zunkworks
> <sa-hack...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:sa-hackerspace%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>.
> <mailto:sa-hackerspace%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>.
breaker alone wouldn't be quick enough to stop you from electrocuting
yourself (or others) with water on the circuit.
The gfci is most likely in the kitchen, next to a faucet, in the
bathroom, etc. They cost more than normal outlets so it wasn't added for
giggles.
If you replace it with a non-gfci you will be in violation of almost any
electrical code anywhere.
On 04/15/2013 12:50 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of Nicholas Borko wrote:
> You can't bypass a GCFI, that's sort of the point :) They are usually
> found indoors where moisture can short an outlet, but sometimes they are
> on a central GFCI breaker, or inline with a remote GFCI outlet. If
> you're on a GCFI breaker, there's nothing you can do. You can replace
> individual outlets, but be aware that an outlet in one location may
> affect GFCI protection in another. Also, make sure you're not violating
> your local building codes.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of zunkworks
> <sa-hack...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:sa-hack...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Is your new toy something that involves high voltage?
>
> -Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of Fredrik
> Safstrom (Mentor) <sa-hack...@googlegroups.com
>
> Is your new toy something that involves high voltage?
>
> -Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of Fredrik
> Safstrom (Mentor) <sa-hack...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:sa-hack...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Howdy...
>
> Anyone know how to bypass a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit
> Interrupter) breaker in an outlet without re-wiring the outlet ?
> Is it at all possible ?
> For now, I guess I'll buy an extension cord and hook it up to
> one of the outlets in the living room.
> Don't think outlets inside need GFCI breakers and I don't think
> I have a central one.
> Any way to check if the outlet is GFCI protected ?
>
> Anyhow, if I would like to bring my new toy to the hackerspace
> for a demonstration, do we have any outlets without GFCI breakers ?
>
> /Fredrik
>
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> Howdy...
>
> Anyone know how to bypass a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit
> Interrupter) breaker in an outlet without re-wiring the outlet ?
> Is it at all possible ?
> For now, I guess I'll buy an extension cord and hook it up to
> one of the outlets in the living room.
> Don't think outlets inside need GFCI breakers and I don't think
> I have a central one.
> Any way to check if the outlet is GFCI protected ?
>
> Anyhow, if I would like to bring my new toy to the hackerspace
> for a demonstration, do we have any outlets without GFCI breakers ?
>
> /Fredrik
>
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Matt Grooms @ Gmail
Apr 15, 2013, 2:22:42 PM4/15/13
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Extreme high voltage in the bathroom. Far Out Man!!!
Replace the outlet with a regular one.
Look at the breaker panel. GFI breakers will have a "press here to test"
button just like GFI outlets do. May / may not also have status LED(s).
Matt
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Replace the outlet with a regular one.
Look at the breaker panel. GFI breakers will have a "press here to test"
button just like GFI outlets do. May / may not also have status LED(s).
Matt
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Donald Greer
Apr 15, 2013, 2:28:02 PM4/15/13
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Fredrik,
If you're popping the GFCI, there's a reason for it. Somewhere your equipment is leaking voltage to ground. I'd concentrate on fixing that, as it could lead to much worse problems than a popped GFCI.
Don
Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 3:17:44 PM4/15/13
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Hmm, yes...
/Fredrik
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Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 3:18:42 PM4/15/13
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Yeah, that was my guess...
/Fredrik
/Fredrik
On 4/15/2013 12:50 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of Nicholas Borko wrote:
You can't bypass a GCFI, that's sort of the point :) They are usually found indoors where moisture can short an outlet, but sometimes they are on a central GFCI breaker, or inline with a remote GFCI outlet. If you're on a GCFI breaker, there's nothing you can do. You can replace individual outlets, but be aware that an outlet in one location may affect GFCI protection in another. Also, make sure you're not violating your local building codes.
Nick
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of zunkworks <sa-hack...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Is your new toy something that involves high voltage?-Jeremy
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:43 PM, 10BitWorks on behalf of Fredrik Safstrom (Mentor) <sa-hack...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Howdy...
Anyone know how to bypass a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter) breaker in an outlet without re-wiring the outlet ?
Is it at all possible ?
For now, I guess I'll buy an extension cord and hook it up to one of the outlets in the living room.
Don't think outlets inside need GFCI breakers and I don't think I have a central one.
Any way to check if the outlet is GFCI protected ?
Anyhow, if I would like to bring my new toy to the hackerspace for a demonstration, do we have any outlets without GFCI breakers ?
/Fredrik
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Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 3:19:46 PM4/15/13
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Guess an extension cord from the livingroom would be a better idea then...
/Fredrik
/Fredrik
Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 3:21:38 PM4/15/13
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I have that on a couple of outlets and then there are a few in series
with it...
I'll leave the GFCI as is and just use another outlet, probably the best...
/Fredrik
with it...
I'll leave the GFCI as is and just use another outlet, probably the best...
/Fredrik
Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 3:23:19 PM4/15/13
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Yes, and that is the purpose of this little toy...
Nice big sparks... ;-)
It works for a second or two, there is a reason my HV transformer does
not have one built in...
/Fredrik
Nice big sparks... ;-)
It works for a second or two, there is a reason my HV transformer does
not have one built in...
/Fredrik
Jeremy Z
Apr 15, 2013, 3:26:09 PM4/15/13
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In that case it could be as simple as installing a choke or filter on the line. A lot of GFCI breakers trip with noisy loads, which is something that arcing HV is really really good at making.
-Jeremymike perez
Apr 15, 2013, 4:42:11 PM4/15/13
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Why not just light a match? :D
Fredrik Safstrom
Apr 15, 2013, 5:05:40 PM4/15/13
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Too simple...
/Fredrik
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Don Smeller
Apr 15, 2013, 8:59:55 PM4/15/13
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The circuits in your bedroom are not protected by GFCI's.
You've been a bad boy. Go to your room and play (quietly).
Try not to burn down the house.
Matt Grooms @ Gmail
Apr 15, 2013, 9:14:52 PM4/15/13
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Reminds me of my first ever circuit (created at age three while quietly playing in my room)
Lamp cord with plug attached. Lamp cord ends stripped, one connected to one side of knife switch, other one connected to other side of knife switch.
Open switch, plug lamp cord into wall socket; close knife switch. SPARKS, buzzing, lights out, mother hollering…………. NIRVANA!!
We didn’t have no stinkin GFI outlets in 1961!
Grimey
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