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shantanu

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Apr 19, 2011, 12:24:27 AM4/19/11
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Hi Friends,

There has been a lot of discussions on the placement prospects of this
program, and we all are in dilemma because we do not have the exact
statistics of placements in this program.

I feel we should directly ask for the placement data of this program
from the university. I presume that they should not have any
reservations in sharing that. What do u people suggest. In case some
one has asked for it already please share it here.


Thanks
Shantanu.

P.S. I will forward you the email communications I and Ravi had with a
few alums:

ravi mashalkar

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Apr 19, 2011, 12:24:56 PM4/19/11
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Yes. Completely agree. There is no harm in asking this information to
NUS S3 team as the information is not available either in brochure or
on website. However, I am not sure whom should we ask.
Shantanu,
Do you know who from NUS S3 team can be contacted? If yes, can you
shoot out an email and then update us with their answers?

Thanks,
Ravi

shantanu

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Apr 23, 2011, 10:31:45 AM4/23/11
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Hi Friends

The group has gone very quiet, just to add some more info.

Regarding the internships I got some good news, it seems that it is
difficult to get an internship in the semester break but we can
certainly work for a company in the final sem when we are in NUS. I
was told that we can request the career services at NUS and get an
internship full time and attend classes in the evening. This would
certainly help us with some real time work ex along with our course.
if u guys have any updates please share it here.

Ravi,

I feel if we ask Ms Toh Wei Ling regarding the placement statsas she
is the program coordinator and she would be having the info
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Ravi Mashalkar

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Apr 24, 2011, 6:13:18 AM4/24/11
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Great news indeed as far as internship plans are concerned. I also read somewhere that NUS is flexible enough to allow full time students to attend evening classes and vice versa. 
And, reason for my quietness was my easter vacation to hometown. I also managed to submit my acceptance to NUS in meantime. 
Regarding, placement statistics, if Wei Ling Toh is the right person, I could shoot out a mail to her. Rather, I will do that today only and will update you all with her response.
--
~ Ravi

shantanu

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Apr 25, 2011, 6:39:01 AM4/25/11
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Thanks Ravi
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shantanu

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Apr 26, 2011, 2:30:02 PM4/26/11
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Hi Guys

Did u guys get any info on the joining date, or may I ask how many
have paid the deposit and confirmed :-).

anyone who has paid the deposit please share with us the contents of
the admissions packet if u have got it.

Thanks
Shantanu


On Apr 25, 7:22 pm, Balaji Prabhakaran <balaji.prabhaka...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks guys for ll your efforts. Extremely sorry about not being active in
> this discussion, ave been travelling non stop for the last few days without
> any respite, just logged in.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> B
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shantanu

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Apr 26, 2011, 3:41:56 PM4/26/11
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Hi Balaji

Thanks for the update. Do communicate us about your conf call.

Ravi: Did u get any updates from NUS regarding placement statistics?
I feel they will form a critical piece of information.


Thanks
Shantanu

On Apr 27, 12:11 am, Balaji Prabhakaran <balaji.prabhaka...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Haven't confirmed as yet.
>
> Btw earlier today spoke to a few chaps from Singapore and associated
> regions. Have been given to understand that employment prospects for
> non citizens/PR is yet stark and the acquisition of PR status is
> progressively getting tougher/stricter (due to domestic socio economic
> situations and local population appeasement compulsions).
>
> All of this has gotten me even more anxious (nightmares about paying
> off the student loans giving me sleepless nights). Have you guys got
> any fresh updates from the region on the employment scenario.
>
> Scheduled to speak to someone who graduated from NUS last year,
> tomorrow. He seems to have rather incisive views on internship &
> career services. Will fill you guys in on the chat post the concall.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> B
> --
> Sent from my mobile device

Ravi Mashalkar

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Apr 27, 2011, 1:35:46 AM4/27/11
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I have paid the deposit and have got acknowledgement receipt. Next steps, as per April Ngern (admission team), would be taken in May. 

Regarding placement statistics, I haven't yet got any response to my mail to Wei Ling. However, I could find some information on NUS website though not sure if it includes S3 students as well.
--
~ Ravi

shantanu chandra

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Apr 27, 2011, 2:02:43 AM4/27/11
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Thanks Ravi........
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Shantanu Chandra
Senior Software Engineer
Samsung India Software Operations
Bangalore 73
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shantanu

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May 16, 2011, 2:08:31 AM5/16/11
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Hi Ravi,

Did they apply with the placement statistics for S3 Asia students?

Thanks
> ~ Ravi- Hide quoted text -

Balaji Prabhakaran

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May 16, 2011, 10:00:07 AM5/16/11
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Guys you may need to write to someone else within the NUS system since Wei Ling Toh is no longer with NUS. She has moved on to join the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), with effect from April 2011 as Asst Director (Strategic Development Division), Financial Centre Development Department. I would recommend you write to Angelyn Ang Hwee Been - ang...@nus.edu.sg. Angelyn is the Head of Marketing & Admission team and may be in  the best position to reply to the queries.
 
Best wishes.
 
Cheers!!
 
Balaji

Ravi Mashalkar

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May 16, 2011, 10:02:48 AM5/16/11
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Thanks for update, Balaji! 
I was wondering why I haven't got any response yet! I will add Angelyn in the loop today. 

~ Ravi
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shantanu chandra

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May 16, 2011, 1:52:08 PM5/16/11
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Guys I wrote to Angelyn to get the stats ...they did not give me much information though. I will forward the the mail exchanges

Balaji Prabhakaran

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May 16, 2011, 9:26:31 PM5/16/11
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No worries Ravi, just noticed it on Linkedin today. Best wishes.

avinash

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May 26, 2011, 3:46:17 AM5/26/11
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Hi Guys,

Nice to see an active forum for the S3 admits. I am also quite anxious
regarding the placements, I guess that is echoed very well in this
group. Also the information posted by Balaji in the above post.

I have spoken to Akshat of the second or third batch,some of the
points tht I noted down while conversing with him:

Pros:
1.Placements wise there is no difference for a regular and S3 MBA.
Darshini of this group also mentioned the same point.
2. Experience of studying in three cities is fantastic

Salary:
1. Indian average salaries are pegged at max 15 lacs p.a including
bonus.
2. Singaporean salaries are pegged at around 70-80 grand SGD. Should
only go upwards next year.

Cons:
1. Opportunities are not a problem as per him, but yes he mentioned
internships is an issue. He stressed upon this point.
2. FUDAN and KUBS are not as reputed as NUS. KUBS is better, since it
is the best in Korea.


Hope to get more clarity through this forum regarding the placements.
Also in another post, I read the orientation date is around 2nd
September?

Regards,
Avinash Rao

On Apr 28, 1:06 pm, Balaji Prabhakaran <balaji.prabhaka...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Gentlemen, I had written to an acquaintance, who is a Global Director with
> one of the leading Korean chaebols (conglomerates).
>
> I am omitting his personal details because he has requiested anonymity in
> shared communication.
>
> I think his answer makes a lot of sense and is extremely insightful.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> B
>
> *Start Quote*
>
> Hi Balaji and sorry for the delay in responding.
>
> Your question is a good one and one that has a complicated answer. Korea is
> in the midst of a transition. This means that while companies here recognize
> the need to internationalize, they still don't know how to proceed. There
> are a lot of similarities between Korea and Japan of 15 years ago. The only
> difference is that whereas many foreigners working in Japan can speak the
> local language, that is still not the case with Korea. And therein lies the
> problem. Korean conglomerates such as LG and Kia are very conservative. They
> are also very nationalistic. If you were to work in a large Korean company
> today, you would be hearing Korean 90 percent of the time. My department has
> 20 people. Only about five speak English well enough to be able to hold a
> decent conversation with a non-Korean. It was different three years ago when
> XXXX *(his firm's name, it is a huge Korean firm, well known in India)* was
> in the midst a big globalization campaign and hiring from abroad but that
> has since changed. Today's XXXX *(his firm's name, it is a huge Korean firm,
> well known in India)* is more internally focused, more interested in
> pursuing a strategy of "Koreanization". This is mostly the result of our
> financial difficulties of the past year -- becoming a global organization is
> a huge investment and current management feels we over-extended ourselves
> before we were actually ready. Hiring from abroad has been frozen and the
> philosophy now is that Koreans know the Korean system best. So that almost
> requires knowledge of the Korean language. We had about a half dozen
> non-Korean executives (VP or higher) up until the end of 2010 but today, I
> know of only one still remaining. While there are plenty of opportunities
> for non-Koreans in XXXX *(his firm's name, it is a huge Korean firm, well
> known in India)* offices all over the world, HQ is 99 percent staffed by
> Koreans or Koreans returning from abroad, many with MBAs and PhDs from
> English-language universities. There are dozens of graduates of Wharton,
> MIT, Stanford and Colombia currently roaming our halls. This is not a
> coincidence, this was a deliberate move on the part of the current
> leadership to recruit Koreans with such backgrounds.
>
> I think this is a very normal cycle in countries where English is not the
> primary language spoken. I saw it when I was living in China and I also saw
> the same trend in Thailand. The organizations most likely to want foreign
> talent are the multinational companies. But even they're transitioning to
> hiring Korean management as their organizations mature and more Koreans
> return from abroad where opportunities are becoming scarcer and scarcer. I
> have spoken to foreigner executives who have worked at Kia, SK and Hyundai
> and I hear the same stories.
>
> So the current mood, frankly, is not advantageous for foreigners. That may
> change when one of more of the following things happen: 1) we run out of
> Korean-speaking skilled workers; 2) companies realize that without
> international employees, they'll never become global organizations; 3) the
> economies in the US and Europe improve to the point that it's more lucrative
> for Koreans to seek opportunities elsewhere. My best estimate is that it
> will take atleast four or five years as these things happen in cycles.
>
> I'm sorry my assessment isn't the answer you may have been hoping for but it
> would not be fair to be anything but honest with you. I am fairly confident
> that the current scenario will change, but I doubt it will be as open as it
> was 4, 5 or 6 years ago.
>
> I hope this is information is informative and useful. Good luck in your
> search.
>
> *End Quote*
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:02 PM, shantanu chandra <
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> chandr.shant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Ravi........
>
> > On 27 April 2011 11:05, Ravi Mashalkar <rmashal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I have paid the deposit and have got acknowledgement receipt. Next steps,
> >> as per April Ngern (admission team), would be taken in May.
>
> >> Regarding placement statistics, I haven't yet got any response to my mail
> >> to Wei Ling. However, I could find some information on NUS website though
> >> not sure if it includes S3 students as well.
>
> ...
>
> read more »

shantanu chandra

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May 26, 2011, 4:44:32 AM5/26/11
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Hi Avinash,

congrats on the admit. When did they offer you admission? Where are you based ?

I contacted NUS office and got the info that 2nd september is the tentative date and they would inform us regarding the same some time in June.

Fudan should send us a package regarding the same.

Is the placement data provided by you for last year? 15 lacs is the max salary or average? Did akshat tell you something related to employability ? Is employability an issue at S3?

I also have a few mails from alums and current students will forward you the same.

Thanks
Shantanu

Balaji Prabhakaran

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May 26, 2011, 9:52:18 AM5/26/11
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Dear All
 
As for me, as some of you may already know, after much deliberations & consultation I have decided to decline the admit offer. So I will not be joining the batch.
 
My best wishes to all of you.
 
My two pennies worth would be that since you have already tossed your hat in the bull ring, don't worry about numbers & figures anymore, go right forth and enjoy the experience with a clear mind and absolute acceptance.
 
Should any of you want to stay connected, my email id remains - balji.pr...@gmail.com and I am also available on linkedin as Balaji Prabhakaran. Do connect.
 
Dear Shantanu
 
Kindly do unsubscribe my id from the group, in view of my not taking up the offer.
 
Thanks for the fantastic support, your initiative has really gone a long way in keeping us all connected.
 
Cheers!
 
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