Several of our windows have had the seals fail, they turned four years old this month, otherwise they have functioned well. Still waiting to hear from customer service. Post on this forum if you any advice re: customer service if you can.
User-685535, I don't have any suggestions. My windows look the same with the fogging and getting a good bit of frost on the inside of the outer pane with the winter temps. They don't have the pieces bowing up like that though. Windows are 3.5 years old now based on install date.
Efficient Builder: There is a now second sash with the gray spacer material bowing up from the bottom. I contacted the Inline sales rep who sold us the windows who responded quickly and told me I would hear from the Service Manager at Inline. We haven't heard anything. Of 16 windows purchased in 2017 four have failed seals and fog in the center on cold days so you can't see through them on cold days. No problems with two large sliding doors and four 'Tilt and Turn', only a fixed window and the double hung.
Are you going to live with the fogging and frosting on the cold days?
Hello,
I'm very close to order 13 windows from Inline and I'm trying to figure out if it's the right thing to do (fiberglass vs vinyl).
I'm a bit worry and I consider the fiberglass a riskier option (based on what I read on the forums, which is not the best information but at least is more or less honest).
I have a couple of reasons to choose fiberglass (stronger than the other materials, environmentally friendlier than vinyl, better design).
""They are about 15% more expensive , but even thou their expansion rate is as close to wood as it gets they are potentially disaster waiting to happen. As opposed to vinyl windows, fibre glass windows are mechanically fastened on the corners of the frames. That means those window frames are screwed on the corners and over time with the contraction and expansion and a natural movement of your house joints will not be sealed anymore (I am not saying that this will happen for sure) where vinyl windows are welded 2gether on the corners, material is basically fused into one piece. so there is no danger of corners coming apart.
Fibreglass windows are great for government projects especially like schools and hospitals, they have money to spend every 15 years or so."
As others have posted, excellent experience with sales and delivery. The windows made an immediate difference where we live in northern Vermont and the house was notably warmer. The 16 new Inline windows replaced 25 year old Marvin windows. Unfortunately the Inline have not held up. Year #3 we began to have failed seals that fog on the inside on cold days, and now two sashes that have some gray spacer material bowing up on the inside from the bottom. We have been in contact with Inline but have not had a response.
Well, wood frame windows are glued and mechanically fastened, aluminum is mechanically fastened. Vinyl is welded (melted) together. Of all the window materials vinyl is the weakest and cheapest and has the worst coefficient of expansion.
All of the windows have their place. Vinyl are the most economical but usually the shortest life span. Wood looks the best, but needs maintenance. Extruded aluminum clad wood solves that somewhat but they are very expensive. Aluminum has a very premium look with a very premium price tag. Fiberglass is a good combination of strength durability and cost.
I don't put much stock in one post or two on the internet forums. Longer term history is a much better indicator. And I don't agree that internet forums are more or less honest. It really depends on who is posting and their motives. My brother has had Inline triple pane casements for about 15 years. One was sticky but after adjustment it was fine so that was an installation problem. One required a new mechanism but he opens his casements to 90 degrees open every day the weather allows which is a pretty heavy duty cycle.
I opted for aluclad wood windows and I hate them. They're not garbage, but for the money I paid, they warp, they're a pain to operate, they're not energy efficient. The interior looks poor because it's painted wood. The exterior looks greater though, I'll give it that.
All the windows I recommend now are inline fiberglass. They're the most cost competitive in Toronto, they look fantastic inside and out. They operate alright (same BS crank like any other casement, I wish they would offer a cam lock manual swing). Fiberglass is way more durable than vinyl, and wood. It doesn't warp from humidity issues, it's doesn't dent from abuse, it doesn't easily get fingerprints on the interior (fiberglass is inherently coloured, vs painted wood), you can do some pretty modern stuff with them and easily get triple pane vs some vinyl manufacturers balk at triple pane because they can't handle the extra weight.
"(fiberglass is inherently coloured, vs painted wood)" That's not totally correct. Fiberglass pultrusions are a dull white, at least the ones I saw being made at the Inline factory, and need to be painted.
I finally had installed all the windows at my house, Inline fiberglass. They look really great since I wanted those thin looking frames and the biggest possible glass surface.
Now, since the steel doors prices went crazy I'm contemplating a fiberglass door, the door is roughly 1500-2000 CAD more than the steel one, the frame is thin and nice but I'm wondering if it offers the same level of insulation as the metal ones.
I attach here a fiberglass door and a metal one. One of the image shows a photoshop exercise to see how it will look like
"The "wish" [pictures are a no go and I would be amazed if they were actually real doors. Take a look at the bottom rails, there is absolutely no strength there period. This door would twist and fail within weeks.
Onto the next thing the insulation factor. For a start, steel and fibreglass share the same U-factor ratings for full, 3/4 half glass units and sidelights. There is no difference. You get NO increased insulation from a fibreglass door whatsoever.
Then let's look at "why you should spend more on fibreglass. "Because it doesn't dent." That's about it. But it does chip and scratch and warp. As a matter of fact, most door manufacturers still insist on a multipoint lock system on a fibreglass door specifically because it warps. Then you have the "acceptable warpage" factor before replacement under warranty. That number is twice for fibreglass over steel.
So why is fibreglass pushed? Cheaper to transport, lighter, and fewer accidents in the plant. easier to cut and shape. No chance of water damage on unfinished products. When 1st introduced they were hand stained a tedious 3-day process and now it's a spray-on finish whether wood grained or solid.
This was a fascinating comment string to read.
I live in an old house with single pane divided light casement windows. The frames were made from locally grown chestnut in 1903. They're all still in perfect working order with no hint of deterioration.
Once a year the local vinyl window salesperson knocks on my door and I politely tell him to go fly a kite.
I do want to look into some kind of easily removable storm sash because for about 3 months of the year it's cold enough that it would make a noticeable difference.
In 3-4 years I anticipate building my own house. If I can track down lumber of similar quality I'm considering making my own window frames, identical except a bit thicker to allow for double glazing.
Hello, I am looking to replace atleast 30 windows in my home that are made of wood. I live in Jacksonville, Florida and need a architectural window, with a thick moulding look on the outside as well as thick grilles, an 1 3/4 to keep the colonial look of the house intact. Any suggestions, the quotes have been outrageous and I am thinking of having a millwork company to the grilles.
Barry, I am also a Direct Buy member. We joined hoping we could use that membership to purchase replacement windows. How was your experience in 2014? Which company did you use and have you been happy with the windows? We are in the Pittsburgh area, but I figure the experience would be similar.
What I did not like is that he could not give me a paper with their warranty or window features and their web site provides little info on certifications and construction features. What I did like is that the vinyl is strengthened by aluminum metal strips inside the frame and insulated inside too. They also wrap the window with insulation batt during the install. These features though are not anywhere on paper or their site. Having a hard time trusting them.
Thank you for another informative site. Where else could I get that type of info written in such an ideal way? I have a project that I am just now working on, and I have been on the look out for such information.
I am going to replace 13 windows and having a hard time deciding on which brand to go with. I like the Okna but the are much more expensive. So what do you think about Norandex ExtremeX , ExtremeXX, or Simaton Prism?
Were looking at replacing 12 of our Aluminum framed windows with Renewal by Anderson Fibrex windows. Are we making a bad choice? Paying for a name over quality? Or is there true quality with the name.
Thanks.
The windows frames are thick, therefore not an attractive window.
Again, nothing exceptional about their window that warrants their price. Anderson Renewal makes the % of money with the installation. Therefore the buy 4 windows, get the 5th one free or whatever rebate they offer is only to get you to schedule with them, feel like you have a window deal, but pay high on the installation. (take the offers with a grain of salt).
Having windows and doors replaced with hurricane impact.
DP-50, E-366,Argon. Doors are full view.
I live at the beach in Charleston SC.
I received three prices to include Jeld-Wen, Simonton and Stergis which is part of a American Window Alliance.
Best pirce puts Simonton against stergis. Never heard of Stergis. Is Jeld-We worth the extra bucks?