Form Bots and the Authenticity Token

[Tom Rossi]

How are bots able to create authenticity tokens that are valid?  I thought for sure authenticity tokens would make my forms bullet proof for bots.

Thanks,

Tom

[Tom Meinlschmidt]

from my experience, the best is to use some questions like 'what date is today' or 'what color do cranberries have' .. :)

this is absolutely bulletproof

tom

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[Jason Fleetwood-Boldt]

The authenticity token just ensures that the "agent" (person or bot) who submits the form first has to request the form. (right?)

If it's a public form, a bot is just as capable of requesting the form, saving the authenticity token, and submitting it back with the authenticity token.

The only real way to guard against bots is Captcha

[Tom Rossi]

Yes, but it that case I would expect to see a GET request where they get the token before they actually POST the form?  If I look in the logs all I see are these bots posting over and over again with different tokens, but apparently all legit.

On Friday, July 27, 2012 5:01:07 PM UTC-4, Jason FB wrote:

The authenticity token just ensures that the "agent" (person or bot) who submits the form first has to request the form. (right?)

If it's a public form, a bot is just as capable of requesting the form, saving the authenticity token, and submitting it back with the authenticity token.

The only real way to guard against bots is Captcha

On Jul 27, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Tom Rossi wrote:

How are bots able to create authenticity tokens that are valid?  I thought for sure authenticity tokens would make my forms bullet proof for bots.

Thanks,

Tom

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