Generating new project creates a few files with bad syntax Rails 3.2.1

[Mark Peterson]

session_store.rb

is:
YourApplicationName::Application.config.session_store :cookie_store, key: '_yourapplicationname_session'

should be:
YourApplicationName::Application.config.session_store :cookie_store, :key => '_yourapplicationname_session'



wrap_parameters.rb

is:
wrap_parameters format: [:json]

should be:
wrap_parameters :format => [:json]


ruby -v
ruby 1.9.2p290 (2011-07-09 revision 32553) [x86_64-darwin10.8.0]
LX9901145:initializers m2peters$ gem list

[Prem Sichanugrist]

No, that is Ruby 1.9 hash syntax. It will generate that syntax if you're using Ruby 1.9.

- Prem

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[Mark Peterson]

You've got to be kidding? Why do these people waste their time with such pointless syntactical changes? Does it improve performance? No. Does it improve readability? No.

Why does the comment in "wrap_parameters.rb" say the following?
# Enable parameter wrapping for JSON. You can disable this by setting :format to an empty array.

On Friday, March 2, 2012 2:31:18 PM UTC-5, Prem Sichanugrist wrote:

No, that is Ruby 1.9 hash syntax. It will generate that syntax if you're using Ruby 1.9.

- Prem

On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Mark Peterson wrote:

session_store.rb

is:
YourApplicationName::Application.config.session_store :cookie_store, key: '_yourapplicationname_session'

should be:
YourApplicationName::Application.config.session_store :cookie_store, :key => '_yourapplicationname_session'



wrap_parameters.rb

is:
wrap_parameters format: [:json]

should be:
wrap_parameters :format => [:json]


ruby -v
ruby 1.9.2p290 (2011-07-09 revision 32553) [x86_64-darwin10.8.0]
LX9901145:initializers m2peters$ gem list

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[Michael Koziarski]

On Saturday, 3 March 2012 at 9:15 AM, Mark Peterson wrote:

You've got to be kidding? Why do these people waste their time with such pointless syntactical changes? Does it improve performance? No. Does it improve readability? No.

Same reason people waste their time writing such pointless rage filled misinformed emails to mailing lists I guess.    Does it improve understanding? No. Does it improve their perceived intelligence? No.

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[Prem Sichanugrist]

* Don't put a rage on me. I'm not the one who decide this. I explained why it's being that way.

* You can generate you application with old syntax by using --old-style-hash.

* That wrap_parameters thing is something else altogether. It's for when you're calling `@model.to_json`.

- Prem 

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[Mark Peterson]

Not sure where you got the "rage" from.

[Mark Peterson]

Again, not sure where you got the "rage" from.

[Michael Pavling]

On 2 March 2012 21:18, Mark Peterson <playe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again, not sure where you got the "rage" from.
>

I tend to get it from top-posting with no trimming ;-)

[Wael M. Nasreddine]

Just taking a long breath to answer you, this syntax change is not pointless, it's a preparation for syntax like this:

some_method(name 'bob', age: 25)

in some_methods, the arguments is not a hash but they are named params..

Anyway, before this becomes a flame war again, post to rubyonrails-talk or ruby ML/IRC

Wael

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[Mark Peterson]

So that's what top-posting is. Why does Google Groups default to top-posting!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

[Ryan Bigg]

On Friday, 2 March 2012 at 12:15 PM, Mark Peterson wrote:

You've got to be kidding? Why do these people waste their time with such pointless syntactical changes

This is what would be gauged as "rage" here. They're not *pointless* syntax changes. They're adapting to the shorter syntax for hashes provided by 1.9. It didn't have to be done, but it's just nicer to have it.

Please don't assume that they're pointless. Most changes in Rails actually do have a point.

[Mark Peterson]

On Friday, March 2, 2012 4:21:39 PM UTC-5, eMxyzptlk wrote:

Just taking a long breath to answer you, this syntax change is not pointless, it's a preparation for syntax like this:

some_method(name 'bob', age: 25)

in some_methods, the arguments is not a hash but they are named params..

Anyway, before this becomes a flame war again, post to rubyonrails-talk or ruby ML/IRC

Wael

Ah, that makes it all better. Don't they have better things to work on?
(That's a rhetorical question and not directed at you)

[Mark Peterson]

All these syntactic sugar changes just add to the barriers to entry.
(I don't blame you for this)

[Mark Peterson]

On Friday, March 2, 2012 4:21:39 PM UTC-5, eMxyzptlk wrote:

Just taking a long breath to answer you, this syntax change is not pointless, it's a preparation for syntax like this:

some_method(name 'bob', age: 25)

in some_methods, the arguments is not a hash but they are named params..

Anyway, before this becomes a flame war again, post to rubyonrails-talk or ruby ML/IRC

Wael

Isn't "name 'bob'" the syntax for passing "bob" as an argument into the "name" method? Or has that all changed too?

If I saw "name 'bob'", I would think that there's a method named "name" defined somewhere.

def name(str)
  # do something with str
end

[Trek Glowacki]

>
> Isn't "name 'bob'" the syntax for passing "bob" as an argument into the "name" method? Or has that all changed too?
>
> If I saw "name 'bob'", I would think that there's a method named "name" defined somewhere.
>
> def name(str)
> # do something with str
> end
>
>

Sounds like a great question for rubyonrails-talk or ruby ML/IRC.

[Prem Sichanugrist]

There's a mistyped there in the code. It has to be `name:`, not `name.`

[Mark Peterson]

Apparently all these syntactical changes confused you too :)

[Mark Peterson]

On Friday, March 2, 2012 5:14:58 PM UTC-5, Prem Sichanugrist wrote:

There's a mistyped there in the code. It has to be `name:`, not `name.`

I'm scared does "name." mean something? For all I know it does now :)

[Prem Sichanugrist]

Oh, I put the period in the `` because the sentence ended there. Sorry if that's confused you.

The correct code is this:

some_method(name: 'bob', age: 25)

- Prem

[Mark Peterson]

Any programmer worth his salt disobeys the imperfection of quotation punctuation rules :)

Putting a period inside the quotes is like having two opening tags but only one closing tag.

[Mark Peterson]

Should I not tempt Oxford Grammar? Then template that sentiment in your feelings for Java. :)

 

[Andrés Mejía]

I don't mean to offend, but you are one of the most annoying people to ever write to this list.

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[Wael Nasreddine]

lool I second that, he's like nil always whining :)

Sorry dude not offending you, but clearly you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to take it out on the most respectful list, which usually people don't even use to say thanks so we do not bother the brains behind this wonderful code base.

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[Mark Peterson]

On Friday, March 2, 2012 7:06:34 PM UTC-5, Andrés Mejía wrote:

I don't mean to offend, but you are one of the most annoying people to ever write to this list.

I'm certainly not offended. Thanks!

[Ryan Bigg]

On Friday, 2 March 2012 at 4:06 PM, Andrés Mejía wrote:

I don't mean to offend, but you are one of the most annoying people to ever write to this list.

Fire, meet gasoline.

i.e. This is not the way to deal with people like that. Insults will only generate more insults. Let's not do that, k?

[Mark Peterson]

On Friday, March 2, 2012 7:09:54 PM UTC-5, eMxyzptlk wrote:

lool I second that, he's like nil always whining :)

Sorry dude not offending you, but clearly you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to take it out on the most respectful list, which usually people don't even use to say thanks so we do not bother the brains behind this wonderful code base.

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Sent from my iPhone

I guess the defensive postures exhibited in the "why all the rage" comments my instincts set in to pounce :)

Cut out the inferiority complexes. It's unbecoming such a great and powerful framework.

[Mark Peterson]

I think he's the one who removed include_root_in_json from ActiveResource :)

[Chad Woolley]

"M" is the mute thread shortcut in gmail:

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=47787

Don't feed the trolls.

[Mark Peterson]

Yes, block your ears as users express their concerns.

[Johnneylee Rollins]

> Yes, block your ears as users express their concerns on the wrong mailing list.

~Johnneylee

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[Mark Peterson]

How is "Generating new project creates a few files with bad syntax Rails 3.2.1" on the wrong mailing list?

Don't confuse my reaction to the curious responses of "victims united" as being the purpose of this thread.

I was pointing out something that I thought was a problem.

Is there a mission statement for this mailing list? If there is, I don't see it.

On Friday, March 2, 2012 11:47:24 PM UTC-5, SpaceGhost wrote:

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Mark Peterson <playe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, March 2, 2012 9:25:06 PM UTC-5, thewoo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> "M" is the mute thread shortcut in gmail:
>>
>> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=47787
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>> Don't feed the trolls.
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