Good episode

[Krister Johnson]

Hey guys,

thanks for the IDE cage match. All I ever hear about is textmate,
textmate, textmate. Which doesn't work for those of us linux/windows
developers. So it was really good to get some other perspectives.

Lest I not mention, Vim has some pretty decent rails plugins...

[Saul Mora]

Please go on..while I still have my favorites, I am always on the
lookout for better/more alternatives. Vi and vim have not been my
tools of choice except in terminal mode, however, I am interested to
hear about said rails plugins....

Saul

[Preston Lee]

Yeah, it would have been nice to have some vi/vim/gvim/whatever
representation. Marc and I use emacs, but I doubt anyone has strong
religious views one way or the other... just personal preference.
What's worked best for you in vim? Also, are there any other Windows-
specific tools you've found to work well?

Preston

On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Krister Johnson wrote:

[Krister Johnson]

I would say my windows rails development experience has not been
terribly positive as far as tools go. I haven't looked at it in a
while, but radrails and I didn't really click. Odd, given that I am
fine with eclipse for java development. But something about the
radrails workflow not so much. I mostly stick with notepad++ in
windows. I'm a big fan of keyboard shortcuts, but the tools I've used
in windows never seem to get it right.

I believe the vi plugin i am using can be found here:
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1567 . I find the
navigation features to be what I use the most.

I used IntelliJ a while back and liked it, so you guys have got me
looking into rubymine and I like what I see so far. Perhaps I will
also give radrails another peek.

[James Britt]

Krister Johnson wrote:
> I would say my windows rails development experience has not been
> terribly positive as far as tools go. I haven't looked at it in a
> while, but radrails and I didn't really click. Odd, given that I am
> fine with eclipse for java development. But something about the
> radrails workflow not so much. I mostly stick with notepad++ in
> windows. I'm a big fan of keyboard shortcuts, but the tools I've used
> in windows never seem to get it right.

I did Rails dev on WinXP for a while, using gvim as my editor. No
problems. If you want something more, consider NetBeans. There is a vi
plugin for folks used to vi commands. NetBeans has some really nice
features for project navigation and refactoring.

(I now do Ruby dev on Kubuntu, still with gvim and assorted plugins and
macros)

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[Saul Mora]

As IronRuby has been slowly taking shape over the past couple of
years, I'd be interested in hearing about anyone's experience with it
so far. Hopefully a little more than demos at the past couple of
railsconf's. I am curious to see what Microsoft can actually do
to ...gasp...help the ruby community with some love in Visual Studio.

Saul

[Preston Lee]

Also note that there are vi plug-ins available for Eclipse-based IDE's
as well, such as Aptana. I haven't tried them in probably 5+ years,
but I have to assume they're still supported. :)

On Aug 16, 2009, at 11:47 PM, James Britt wrote:

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