Ruport Book: Anyone good at cover art?

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Gregory Brown

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Dec 20, 2007, 9:39:22 PM12/20/07
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Hi folks....

We're now doing the bells and whistles stuff on the book, and didn't
give much thought to cover art.

If you are skilled with graphic design and would like to submit cover
art, we'll be happy to accept it.

If we use your design, you'll get a free copy of the book, retain the
full copyright to your design, and
get a link or something else in the book's beginning.

We've attached the stock cover that we'll go with if we don't get
submissions, which is *ok* but
admittedly super generic.

-greg

cover.png

Gregory Brown

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Dec 20, 2007, 9:40:58 PM12/20/07
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On Dec 20, 2007 9:39 PM, Gregory Brown <gregory...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We've attached the stock cover that we'll go with if we don't get
> submissions, which is *ok* but
> admittedly super generic.

Hah. I'm still normalizing my point of view in writing from working
on the book content. "I've attached"

Stefan Mahlitz

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Dec 21, 2007, 2:43:59 PM12/21/07
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Maybe the guy who did the ruport-logo can jump in?

Stefan
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Wes Hays

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Dec 21, 2007, 7:15:54 PM12/21/07
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This sounded link fun so I thought I would give it a try (don't worry I won't be mad if I don't win).

The first one is minimalist, the second one is more vibrant and the third one is a mixture of the first two. I didn't have the original artwork for the logo used in the first and third images - it would make it look better.

http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html

There is also a link to the PSD (Photoshop CS3 - Mac) file if someone wants to use these as a template or to make changes.

Regards,
-Wes

Gregory Brown

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Dec 21, 2007, 7:34:20 PM12/21/07
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On Dec 21, 2007 2:43 PM, Stefan Mahlitz <ste...@mahlitz-net.de> wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
>
> Gregory Brown wrote:
> > Hi folks....
> >
> > We're now doing the bells and whistles stuff on the book, and didn't
> > give much thought to cover art.
> >
> > If you are skilled with graphic design and would like to submit cover
> > art, we'll be happy to accept it.
> >
> > If we use your design, you'll get a free copy of the book, retain the
> > full copyright to your design, and
> > get a link or something else in the book's beginning.
> >
> > We've attached the stock cover that we'll go with if we don't get
> > submissions, which is *ok* but
> > admittedly super generic.
>
> Maybe the guy who did the ruport-logo can jump in?

If Daniel is around, that'd be great.

Gregory Brown

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Dec 22, 2007, 11:41:40 AM12/22/07
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On Dec 21, 2007 7:15 PM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This sounded link fun so I thought I would give it a try (don't worry I won't be mad if I don't win).
>
> The first one is minimalist, the second one is more vibrant and the third one is a mixture of the first two. I didn't have the original artwork for the logo used in the first and third images - it would make it look better.
>
> http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html

Wow, this stuff is pretty neat. I like the third cover most.

The code is really clever, and it's a neat idea, but I think that if
we have code on the front cover, it should probably be Ruport code.

Nice idea to have the 'complete coverage of', but if the Ruport Book
only covered 1.2.3, we could have gone with a mainstream publisher.

Please change this to 1.4 :)

What do other folks think? I definitely like this cover better than
our stock cover.

-greg

pat eyler

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Dec 22, 2007, 12:04:44 PM12/22/07
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hmm, I kinda like version 2:
http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/cover_by_wes_hays_2.jpg

I wonder if it's too close to The Ruby Way/ The Rails Way style covers
that A-W is doing though.

--
thanks,
-pate
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Gregory Brown

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Dec 22, 2007, 12:19:36 PM12/22/07
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On Dec 22, 2007 12:04 PM, pat eyler <pat....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hmm, I kinda like version 2:
> http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/cover_by_wes_hays_2.jpg
>
> I wonder if it's too close to The Ruby Way/ The Rails Way style covers
> that A-W is doing though.

hmm... you make a decent point pate.

That makes 3 a little more original...

-greg

pat eyler

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Dec 22, 2007, 12:53:59 PM12/22/07
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Agreed, although, I find the split a bit too abrupt in 3 ... it does seem like
a good path to pursue though.


>
> -greg

Wes Hays

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Dec 22, 2007, 6:09:00 PM12/22/07
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Hey guys,

I updated cover 2 and cover 3 as suggested.

Cover 2 was an idea that came from the logo. If you imagine looking at the top of a ruby on to a blue page that is what I think you will see - it was my wife's idea.

As for the code in cover 2 and cover 3 if you were to run it you would get "Book cover by Wes Hays" - I thought it was a cool idea ;-) It has been changed using code taken from the website.

If anyone else has any ideas let me know and I will make changes. I have also updated the PSD file so if anyone else wants to make updates.

http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html

-Wes

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Subject: [ruport] Re: Ruport Book Cover Art


On Dec 21, 2007 7:15 PM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This sounded link fun so I thought I would give it a try (don't worry I won't be mad if I don't win).
>
> The first one is minimalist, the second one is more vibrant and the third one is a mixture of the first two. I didn't have the original artwork for the logo used in the first and third images - it would make it look better.
>
> http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html

Wow, this stuff is pretty neat. I like the third cover most.

pat eyler

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Dec 22, 2007, 6:12:49 PM12/22/07
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On Dec 22, 2007 4:09 PM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I updated cover 2 and cover 3 as suggested.

wow! fast work.

>
> Cover 2 was an idea that came from the logo. If you imagine looking at the top of a ruby on to a blue page that is what I think you will see - it was my wife's idea.
>
> As for the code in cover 2 and cover 3 if you were to run it you would get "Book cover by Wes Hays" - I thought it was a cool idea ;-) It has been changed using code taken from the website.
>
> If anyone else has any ideas let me know and I will make changes. I have also updated the PSD file so if anyone else wants to make updates.
>


I really like #4, one change I'd make is to make the chart more clear,
it's kind of obscured by the 'ruby filter' at this point. It might also be
a good idea to add a 'covering Ruport 1.4' tag on it somewhere.

> http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html
>
> -Wes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Brown" <gregory...@gmail.com>
> To: ruby-r...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 8:41:40 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: [ruport] Re: Ruport Book Cover Art
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2007 7:15 PM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This sounded link fun so I thought I would give it a try (don't worry I won't be mad if I don't win).
> >
> > The first one is minimalist, the second one is more vibrant and the third one is a mixture of the first two. I didn't have the original artwork for the logo used in the first and third images - it would make it look better.
> >
> > http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html
>
> Wow, this stuff is pretty neat. I like the third cover most.
>
> The code is really clever, and it's a neat idea, but I think that if
> we have code on the front cover, it should probably be Ruport code.
>
> Nice idea to have the 'complete coverage of', but if the Ruport Book
> only covered 1.2.3, we could have gone with a mainstream publisher.
>
> Please change this to 1.4 :)
>
> What do other folks think? I definitely like this cover better than
> our stock cover.
>
>
> -greg
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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Gregory Brown

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Dec 22, 2007, 6:55:54 PM12/22/07
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On Dec 22, 2007 6:09 PM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As for the code in cover 2 and cover 3 if you were to run it you would get "Book cover by Wes Hays" - I thought it was a cool idea ;-) It has been changed using code taken from the website.

I love the code idea. It's funny that you did that, I was thinking of
embedding a pacman ghost on the front page that way, but thought that
even for that example, the code would be too out of place, despite the
cleverness.

> If anyone else has any ideas let me know and I will make changes. I have also updated the PSD file so if anyone else wants to make updates.
>
> http://www.weshays.com/book_cover/index.html

I think these are neat. We do need to give Daniel a chance to submit
something if he wishes, and give anyone else a chance to do something
last minute.

The code listed there from the web site is out of date *blushes*. We
should go with charting for sure because it looks snazzy, but give me
a couple days to update the website. It will only take me a moment,
but I'm distracted by family due to the holidays right now.

Mike and I will try to make our decision by Wednesday evening.
Without other submissions, I'd definitely like to go with yours,
they're neat!

-greg

Gregory Brown

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Dec 22, 2007, 11:26:07 PM12/22/07
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On Dec 22, 2007 6:55 PM, Gregory Brown <gregory...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2007 6:09 PM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As for the code in cover 2 and cover 3 if you were to run it you would get "Book cover by Wes Hays" - I thought it was a cool idea ;-) It has been changed using code taken from the website.
>
> I love the code idea. It's funny that you did that, I was thinking of
> embedding a pacman ghost on the front page that way, but thought that
> even for that example, the code would be too out of place, despite the
> cleverness.

Also, if we end up with your covers, we can put that code sample on
the inside cover, if you wish.

-greg

Wes Hays

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Dec 23, 2007, 12:05:10 AM12/23/07
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pate,

#6
- Added covering Ruport 1.4 line
- Increased opacity on the chart from 20% to 40%
- Moved chart down

Wes Hays

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Dec 23, 2007, 12:19:54 AM12/23/07
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>> We do need to give Daniel a chance to submit
>> something if he wishes, and give anyone else a chance to do something
>> last minute.

I completely agree and I am not trying take over or anything. Like I said this sounded like fun and has been so far.

I have provided the Photoshop file in case someone wants to take anything I have done so far, tweak it and call it there own. I welcome any competition to make this cover design the best it can be.

-Wes

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Wes Hays

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Dec 23, 2007, 12:26:28 AM12/23/07
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Greg,

If you can explain how the pacman ghost with Ruport came to be I'll see if I can come up with something.

>> Also, if we end up with your covers, we can put that code sample on
>> the inside cover, if you wish.

I appreciate the offer but that would not be necessary. It was me just being geeky.

-Wes


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Gregory Brown

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Dec 23, 2007, 2:56:35 AM12/23/07
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On Dec 23, 2007 12:26 AM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> If you can explain how the pacman ghost with Ruport came to be I'll see if I can come up with something.
>
> >> Also, if we end up with your covers, we can put that code sample on
> >> the inside cover, if you wish.
>
> I appreciate the offer but that would not be necessary. It was me just being geeky.

Well you would certainly be credited in the inside cover, and though I
expected that to be in English, I have no problem doing it in Ruby. :)

Still... an unobscured name and link would give you proper
recognition. Totally up to you if we use your stuff.

-greg

Gregory Brown

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Dec 23, 2007, 3:13:30 AM12/23/07
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On Dec 23, 2007 12:26 AM, Wes Hays <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> If you can explain how the pacman ghost with Ruport came to be I'll see if I can come up with something.

It's probably of a time before we tried to respect a two-beer limit
for committing patches to Ruport. :)

On a serious note, I think I saw a pacman example in PDF::Writer,
thought it was funny, and started to get carried away. If you're a
member of the ruport-dev list, you'll see we still use a pacman ghost
logo there, and you'll find it in some of our internal documents and
communications between developers. It's now lost most of whatever
initial meaning it might have had, and is just an unofficial mascot in
a sense.

At one point, there were ASCII images of the ghosts in the API docs,
and also things like our IRC bot 'inky'. The only real remaining
remnant is that the password for the anonymous account on Trac is
blinky.

We are a strange bunch, I suppose. It may be tricky to fit Pacman
ghosts into the cover without destroying all sense of professionalism,
or infringing some copyrights. If we could find a way to do it in a
tasteful way, I think it'd be funny. Still, that's a big if. :)

-greg

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