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[Shawna Erholm]

Itwas stated Kakashi now has the six paths sage power, Naruto does too and I think this power is not based solely on tb/kaguya/juubi chakra because Naruto was not using the tb/kaguya/juubi chakra when he kicked Madara's truth seeking ball away... he was obviously stronger and augmented and so was Sasuke. I think that Sasuke has this power too as it augments everything... attacks too.. being black colored like Raikiri and Chidori. So maybe Sasuke should be added to this page? Mind you only Senjutsu and Taijutsu can hurt Kaguya and Madara, and Sasuke and Kakashi both did so with black raikiri and black chidori, not to mention when he was using Senjutsu Chakra as a 13yr old with CS2 at valley of the end his chidori turned black then too. I think Sasuke is indeed using the same power as Kakashi, which is the same power as Naruto before using the lava rasenshuriken. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 04:07, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

It is like I said before, I don't think they need to "transform" to use the Senjutsu. Naruto was not "transformed" when he kicked away the truth seeking ball. Therefor Sasuke most definitely has Senjutsu and Kakashi does too. But it isn't blatant enough for some people to accept I guess. ItachiWasAHero (talk) 17:25, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

OK so one more thing, Hagoromo said that his chakra bloomed through training. So if he already had life force and physical energy, then what kind of chakra bloomed?Riptide240 (talk) 16:55, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

So, the reason Kaguya isn't listed as a user is because technically,the juubis chakra is the catalyst. This would make sense since Kaguya is the ten tails and, technically is its chakra. Otherwise I would've voted her being a user. So, are we still debating on whether or not Hamura is a user? Riptide240 (talk) 15:13, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

I'm actually more upset at myself that I didn't think you'd continue the argument. le sigh. I don't give a shitfuck about Magnet Release I was using it as a point that someone can see and believe they are right about Magnet Release just as you see and believe you are right about Six Paths Sage Technique. And based on the results of Magnet Release why on earth shouldn't that also apply here?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 20:25, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Because there's no "what ifs" in this case. If Kaguya's jinchs can use SPST because of her, then she can also use it. Just like Naruto can sense negative emotions, so can Kurama, since it comes from it to begin with. Also we list SPST as a parent to Truth Seeking Ball and she used one. From what we know, TSB indeed requires SPST, since we didn't see Naruto, Madara or Obito use it prior to getting SPST--Elveonora (talk) 20:29, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Kaguya shouldn't be added for a very clear reason. All users of Six Path Sage Technique with the exception of Naruto have been Jūbi jinchūriki. Kaguya is not a jinchūriki. She is the damn Jūbi. And this has been made clear numerous times, and I'm quite frankly getting sick of it. You're outnumbered, Elveonora, so don't try to kick up more shift without new evidence.--Reliops (talk) 18:59, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

@Seel, There's also the possibility that the pattern on the back is actually the pattern of the sealing technique that Madara and Obito used to become TT jinchuuriki and Obito later used on Naruto to seal TB chakra into him. The only reason we are having these stupid doubts is because Kishimoto explains shit so poorly.--Elveonora (talk) 19:27, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

As mentioned above, I want someone explain first why becoming TT jinchs gives SPST if TT doesn't have it and why it gives TSB, the relaton of TSB to SPST and how come Naruto's got SPST and TSB without being TT jinch--Elveonora (talk) 21:45, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

So is Kaguya a user of the SPST or not? If she isn't, then the TSB shouldn't be the derived technique of the SPST, and the latter not the parent technique of the former. If she is a user of the SPST, list her as a user, OK? Nothing is happening. Isn't it contradictory to say she isn't a user of the SPST, can use a huge TSB, yet list the SPST as the parent technique of the TSB (and the latter derived from the former)? If she is a user, then put it there. If she isn't, then remove the assumed connection between the SPST and the TSB. --WindStar7125 (Contribs) 15:51, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Think logically. Madara said Naruto got Six Paths Sage Technique. From then on, Naruto could use Truth Seeking Ball. If Truth Seeking Ball didn't require Six Page Sage Technique, then Madara would have said that Naruto got Truth Seeking Ball.My point is that Naruto got 2 new techniques, Six Paths Sage Technique and Truth Seeking Ball, yet Madara put emphasis only on the former, meaning the latter comes with the former.

Who knows? Back to the topic, we know that Kaguya is a user of the TSB. So Kaguya has the SPST? If she does, then just put it there. But no, some don't want to, and yet the fact that the SPST is a parent technique to the TSB and the latter a derived technique of the former is still there. See how confusing that is? If she can use the TSB and not the SPS, then why are the links of the techniques still in each others' infoboxes? Unless she can use the SPS. But there's a dispute there. --WindStar7125 (Contribs) 18:34, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Should we make it clearer that someone can't just obtain this power by gaining some chakra from all nine tailed beasts and learning senjutsu? Because the TSB are made of Six Paths Sage chakra so it's pretty obvious that this form isn't just something that anybody can obtain Riptide240 (talk) 14:36, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

No i dont think hagoromo has nothing to do with obtaining this technique because if naruto just have all the tailed beast and sage mode then i guess his pigmentation would remain and even if sasuke got his chakra from hashis dna which he didnt because it stated that it was only the study of his cells, his eyes would be a normal rinnegan and not a unique one.

Everywhere I look it states that in this mode the toad eyes are yellow instead of orange, but unless I'm colorblind, it's orange on the cover or at least a darker shade of yellow. Were we shown on any volume or chapter cover the toad's eyes colored? I'd like them compared--Elveonora (talk) 10:31, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

They are mostly yellow, with a slight tint of orange at best. For all we know, these mixed eyes already were yellow back there against Nagato. Anime colored them red, tho.--Elve [Mod] Talk PageContribs 10:23, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Given that now we've seen Naruto's battle avatar form, and that Six Paths Sage Technique seems to be the full power of Hagoromo's body, it seems like a likely conclusion. What does everyone else think?--SuperSaiyaMan (talk) 22:35, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

So i came across 2 full body images of Obito's initial jinchūriki/sage transformation and was wondering if 1 of these images were appropriate to replace the current 1 and perhaps move it to the infobox image instead. If your interested here's image 1 and image 2. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 12:03, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Isn't there a disadvantage? In the manga either Kaguya, Madara, or Obito said at one point that he/she couldn't use some kind of movement technique, I think it was either the body flicker, substitution, or Madara talking about Kamui. I wish I remembered the details, but I know I read about there being a downside to having so much chakra density. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? The wiki doesn't mention it at all. Darth Itachi (talk) 22:56, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

This article states everything BUT what the databook states it is and does. Unless I'm mistaken, Jin no Sho says this makes the user Omniscient when it comes to chakra. So not only is that missing from the article, but the other bits about "increased strength" etc. are not part of this--Elve [Mod] Talk PageContribs 21:38, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

Given that the databook seems to describe this more as a type of senjutsu than a single, specific technique, I would like to again raise the question of why we are translating "Rikudō Senjutsu" as "Six Paths Sage Technique" rather than "Six Paths Senjutsu", when technique classifications are left untranslated in other techniques.--BeyondRed (talk) 06:14, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. It's evident that Hamura is a user of the TSB, given chapters 670, 690, our translators and Hamura's databook entry in Retsu no Sho. So according to this edit, that databook lists Hamura as a user of the Six Paths Senjutsu. If so, that means there was validity in Hagoromo's statement in chapter 670 when he said "The Ten-Tails... we [He and Hamura] sealed it within ourselves." So due to this, does his usage of the TSB mean he truly is a user of the Six Paths Senjutsu? If so, isn't Hamura a jinchūriki?

Cannot believe I didn't notice that Elve.. yeah I think Kaguya had the Byakugan now that I look at her.. Also, I severely doubt the Juubi gave Rikudo the Rinnegan.. I think he just had it from birth since his mother took the Juubi's chakra basically, so he was born with the Juubi's eye, just like his brother might have been.. although his brother might have just been born with the Byakugan on the other hand... we just don't know yet on that part ItachiWasAHero (talk) 00:03, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

While I'm leaning with disagreeing that it's Sharingan, the Uzumaki spiral comparison adds another layer to the mystery. However, in this [1], Tobi/Obito says that Indra was born with the Sage's eyes. Obviously that's false, but those spiraling eyes are portrayed as Rinnegan in that scene. The fact there is some misinformation in that page already makes me question it, but it at least has to be something similar to Rinnegan to be mistaken as it. It's possible it's a variation of Sharingan, but as Uchiha have awakened the Rinnegan, it's also possible the same is true of Indra. We shouldn't be ruling anything out yet. EmotionalRockfish (talk) 07:44, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

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