Re: [rt-rules-subgroup] Methods Committee meeting

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Don Morrison

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Feb 22, 2017, 8:30:13 AM2/22/17
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Mark Davies <ma...@snowtiger.net> wrote:
> The MC had a Skype meeting tonight, rejoice! No-one objecting to
> change. Tim and Graham should be getting their invitations to join
> us soon - as consultant members initially. Another meeting scheduled
> for a fortnight's time.

So, did the scheduled meeting happen this past Sunday? Anything to report? Will folks not on the committee have an opportunity to review and comment on, in time to be considered for revision, what the committee plans to propose in about five weeks time? How did Tim and Graham get on?



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Mark Davies

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Feb 23, 2017, 5:12:52 AM2/23/17
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On 22/02/2017 13:29, Don Morrison wrote:
> So, did the scheduled meeting happen this past Sunday? Anything to
> report? Will folks not on the committee have an opportunity to review
> and comment on, in time to be considered for revision, what the
> committee plans to propose in about five weeks time? How did Tim and
> Graham get on?

Oh dear, I missed the meeting unfortunately, but it did take place.
Outcomes:

1. The others reviewed the latest draft of Tim's document - see attached.

2. Graham and Tim have joined the MC as "consultants", and hopefully
they will make it to our next meeting. Guys - are you on the MC mailing
list yet? What about Slack?

MBD



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Graham John

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Feb 23, 2017, 6:26:20 AM2/23/17
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MBD wrote:

> Guys - are you on the MC mailing list yet? What about Slack?

Neither. Peter asked me whether I was willing to participate on 14 Feb and I confirmed, but I have not seen anything further.

Regards,

Graham

Don Morrison

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Feb 23, 2017, 8:40:24 AM2/23/17
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Graham John <gra...@changeringing.co.uk> wrote:
> Peter asked me whether I was willing to participate on 14 Feb and I
> confirmed, but I have not seen anything further.

Do I correctly deduce that Graham and Tim were not involved in the latest committee meeting? If so, that seems a shame. Asking them to roll up their sleeves and pitch in doesn't really do any good if you then exclude them.



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or hateful, consoling or menacing by far than the vast majority of the
living."          -- George Steiner, _The Poetry of Thought_

Don Morrison

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Feb 23, 2017, 9:03:57 AM2/23/17
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:12 AM, Mark Davies <ma...@snowtiger.net> wrote:
> 1. The others reviewed the latest draft of Tim's document - see
> attached.

Thanks. Do you know if they reviewed the actual, proposed definitions, or just this summary of differences from the current ones, written and published to this list by Tim 17 months ago, which is by its nature rather sketchy? Also, it is worth noting that this summary of differences is now somewhat out of date. For example, the situations with respect to at least items 9, 30 and 35 are all now changed, I believe.

And do we know of anything beyond simply "members of the committee have now looked at this document"? Any idea what has actually *happened*, what the thinking on these things was? What changes are planned or likely to be proposed, and when? What next steps are? I realize that since you (Mark) didn't participate, and, apparently, neither Graham nor Tim were given the opportunity to do so, either (sorry if they were and I've misunderstood), it may be difficult for you to comment more meaningfully. But I believe there are at least two further members of the committee who subscribe to this list; might one of them fill in some more details for us, please?




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