Re: Web page (was Decisions on peals, methods and calls)

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Mark Davies

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Mar 18, 2017, 6:39:00 AM3/18/17
to Tim Barnes, mark, Don Morrison, John Harrison, Graham John, David Richards, Philip Earis, Richard Smith, rt-rules...@googlegroups.com
Hi Tim,

Yes I think we need to hit the middle ground in 2017. We don't want to
continue to evolve the current rules: the changes you mention are I
think more suitable for a complete replacement, as planned for 2018.

The only thing I really want to get rid of in 2017 is the false-method
blocks, which is an easy redraft, as you've shown. The reason for this
being a priority is to sort out classification of existing methods
(blocks). However the other changes are useful, so if we can draft up
sensible amendments without too much difficulty, and get them passed,
then it's a win. But we need to put boundaries on it - if anything
proves too difficult, it's not worth fighting with the status quo of the
existing Decisions, so let's wait until we can sweep them away.

Anyway, on D(B) I've revised my original wording slightly - see below.
I've also posted this to the Methcomm Slack channel so the other
committee members can see and comment on it. I'll make sure this forum
is kept in the loop.

B. Particular conditions required for peals on different numbers of bells

1. Single-stage peals. Peals of Minimus, Doubles, Minor, Triples, Major,
etc shall be rung on four, five, six, seven, eight, etc. bells
respectively, or on five, six, seven, eight, nine, etc bells with the
tenor as cover.

2. Multi-stage peals. Peals of "Variable Cover Minimus", "Variable Cover
Doubles", "Variable Cover Minor", etc shall be rung on five, six, seven,
etc bells respectively, with a cover bell which is not always the tenor.
Peals of "Minimus and Doubles", "Doubles and Minor", etc shall be rung
on five, six, etc bells respectively, and contain at least one extent or
multi-extent block at the lower stage. Peals of "Variable Cover Minimus
and Doubles", "Variable Cover Doubles and Minor", etc shall be rung on
five, six, etc bells respectively, and contain at least one extent or
multi-extent block at the lower stage in which the tenor is not the cover.

3. Length. Peals involving no more than seven changing bells, which
includes "Variable Cover Minor and Triples", shall consist of at least
5040 changes. Peals with more than seven changing bells, which includes
"Triples and Major" and "Variable Cover Triples", shall consist of at
least 5000 changes.

4. Truth. A peal may contain any number of uninterrupted extents or
multi-extent blocks; these are round blocks in which every possible row
at the corresponding stage occurs the same number of times. In
multi-stage peals, each such round block may be rung at either the lower
or higher stage. Additionally, a peal may include a single uninterrupted
touch, at either the lower or higher stage for multi-stage peals, in
which each of the possible rows at that stage appears at most one more
time than every other possible row.

5. Reports of variable cover peals shall state the number of different
cover bells and the number of changes of cover bell.

Does this accurately convey the range of possibilities for the
"multi-stage peals"? Would it be better if point 5 was merged onto the
end of point 2?

Cheers
M

On 18/03/2017 03:15, Tim Barnes wrote:
> Mark -- looks like the right direction, though I need to think it
> through in detail. I'm away most of this weekend, so will do this on
> Monday / Tuesday. I'd actually been thinking about going further than
> you have below, and incorporating the fully generic approach where fixed
> cover bells and variable cover bells are defined, and you no longer need
> to have stage-based rules (with the exception of Doubles and Minor,
> etc). This allows multiple cover bells, leading cover bells, etc. But
> perhaps this is too ambitious for 2017 given the short time remaining,
> and your approach is a better middle ground for this year. I'll reply
> next week via the subgroup list so the messages are better archived than
> with individual emails.
>
> Tim

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