RE: {RRAF} Opinon on Replacing WinWay with Learning Express
Dave Loch
Lisa,
That’s unfortunate that WinWay is going away. I have customers come in all the time with low computer skills, are able to use it, create a resume quick and leave very happy. I hope LearningExpress is just a customer friendly?
Dave
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:51 AM
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Subject: {RRAF} Opinon on Replacing WinWay with Learning Express
Cybrarian is due to replace CRS in or around 4 months from now. The decision has been made not to include WinWay Resume in Cybrarian’s package. We are searching for a replacement for WinWay’s functionality to allow customers to develop their resumes without direct staff assistance. Right now, we are leaning towards LearningExpress Library as a replacement since it has a resume building feature that guides users through much like WinWay. The website also has many other resources/tools, (it looks like they’re updated their job search engine to match indeed.com’s at the moment!). I just went through and registered for the service and played around in it a bit and it seems great- although I had to do a little digging to get to the resume builder. There is no catch for registration except the user must have a personal email. The resume is saved to the account as well- so the user can access their resume whenever they have access to the internet.
Would you please ask RRACP/RRAF folks their opinion on this matter and if LearningExpress would be a good option for replacing WinWay?
Thank you!
Sean Bibus | Workforce Development Specialist 3 | Workforce System Coordination
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Axness, Carol
Unfortunately without a library card, I along with many of our customers will not be able to register to use this product. It is not uncommon for customers to not have a library card or being unable to obtain one due to having outstanding fines. Please reconsider the continuation of WinWay - as the reality of customers developing their resumes without direct staff service – is in fact a disservice to those who need us most.
Carol Axness, GCDF, OWDS
Dakota County Workforce Center
Welin, Alison (DEED)
Try using this URL to create an account on Learning Express Library. You should be able to create one with only an email account. This is the link on the CRS screen under Testing/Training Tab. Click on this link and then click ‘Register’.
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Sammann, Curt (DEED)
Absolutely agree with and support Carol. Use of our (presumably) universally available Resource Area services should not be specifically contingent upon a customer’s affiliation with other entities. We’re in business to facilitate and empower our customers, not devise means to exclude them because of an absence of a membership with an outside agency.
Curt Sammann | State Program Coordinator
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St Paul MN 55104
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Curfman, Marney (DEED)
As far as including WinWay Resume in Cybrarian’s package, what are the consequences? In a visual sense on the new desktop or tabs/choices, are customers still going to be presented with MinnesotaWorks.net first and primarily? Does Cybrarian provide other package options?
Regarding LearningExpress Library, has anyone run a report regarding the number of customer accounts using the job.s...@state.mn.us email address? This leads to the following questions: Is there an email verification process? If not, will LearningExpress Library allow more than one account to be created with the same (job.s...@state.mn.us ) email address?
How many customers are not receiving at least some direct staff assistance? Typically, customers are encouraged to begin by completing the fill-in-the-blank MinnesotaWorks.net resume so that it is automatically saved section by section and retrievable from anywhere with internet connection. For those who need/want it, O*NET is pointed out and even copied/pasted to inspire and assist in creating skill statements. Staff only needs to point out the two websites (MinnesotaWorks.net and OnetOnline.org), either instruct the customer to or arrange the websites on two half windows side by side, and provide them with a key to keyboard shortcuts.
Marney Curfman
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Taylor, Gerald (DEED)
I think it would be a disaster to replace WinWay. The learning Express would work great for a small number of customers. However the majority of our customers are new to writing resumes, to say the least. WinWay provides something tangible that customers can walk out with and feel good about what they have accomplished at the workforce Center. Before you make this decision, spend a day in the resource room. I feel this would complicate are resource room system and discourage the use of a now working system for a number of customers
Thank you
Jerry Taylor
Resource Room Representative
Snyder, Lisa (DEED)
Sean is unable to respond to the RRAF Site as he is not a member, so he asked I forward his reply. I'm working on getting him access so he can reply himself.
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Sean Bibus
Bonnie Vanecek
I’m impressed with the LearningExpress Library site and definitely feel it’s time to try something new and migrate away the 1992-2008 WinWay.
Although WinWay has some nice features, it’s hard to manipulate. It’s dated – samples don’t show email addresses and “References Available Upon Request” can’t be deleted.
I recommend change. I also like the other options, including sample tests for those preparing to take entrance or civil service exams.
Easy registration, too. Thanks for the quick access to the registration link so we could explore!
From: rr...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rr...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Axness, Carol
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:11 AM
To: rr...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: {RRAF} Opinon on Replacing WinWay with Learning Express
Unfortunately without a library card, I along with many of our customers will not be able to register to use this product. It is not uncommon for customers to not have a library card or being unable to obtain one due to having outstanding fines. Please reconsider the continuation of WinWay - as the reality of customers developing their resumes without direct staff service – is in fact a disservice to those who need us most.
Carol Axness, GCDF, OWDS
Dakota County Workforce Center
From: rr...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rr...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:51 AM
To: RRAF
Subject: {RRAF} Opinon on Replacing WinWay with Learning Express
Cybrarian is due to replace CRS in or around 4 months from now. The decision has been made not to include WinWay Resume in Cybrarian’s package. We are searching for a replacement for WinWay’s functionality to allow customers to develop their resumes without direct staff assistance. Right now, we are leaning towards LearningExpress Library as a replacement since it has a resume building feature that guides users through much like WinWay. The website also has many other resources/tools, (it looks like they’re updated their job search engine to match indeed.com’s at the moment!). I just went through and registered for the service and played around in it a bit and it seems great- although I had to do a little digging to get to the resume builder. There is no catch for registration except the user must have a personal email. The resume is saved to the account as well- so the user can access their resume whenever they have access to the internet.
Would you please ask RRACP/RRAF folks their opinion on this matter and if LearningExpress would be a good option for replacing WinWay?
Thank you!
Sean Bibus | Workforce Development Specialist 3 | Workforce System Coordination
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Robin Hakari
WinWay does allow you to add and remove Headings like References Available Upon Request. I get that if the version is 2008 things change though.
I just gave the resume in Learning Express a try. I entered the experience in chronological order, where I was assuming would be top. It added them in reverse order so my oldest is on top and I haven’t figured out how to change the order. It does provide a variety of formatting. It doesn’t pre-populate the job details like WinWay so a person can just edit vs. composing or copy/pasting.
