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So, regardless of what people say and how they'd like to protest, every single match I join on PS4 now, I share it with M&K users. Those 20-kills-4k-damage guys who have laser beam accuracy from across the map using an R99, zero recoil with any gun, 3000mph pinpoint 360 aiming, fast strafing, etc. Y'know, those advantages they claim not to have.
So firstly: The most obvious point I'd like to make here is that it's against the ToS, i.e. Respawn do not condone it and have publicly said this, but still, nothing is getting done about it. If it isn't condoned, it means you're cheating.
1) As people are using third party adapters for the M&K support, the adapter is also tricking the console into thinking it's accepting a standard controller input, and so it also gives strong, adjustable aim assist to M&K users. Do people realise what this means? It means these guys have the advantages of M&K aiming, WITH assisted aim. Almost every time I see someone using a Havoc from across the map, I'm like "Ah, another one eh?".
2) Player retention will plateau, and new players will turn away fast. I've introduced friends to Apex, who have all quit before they've even started because they're not so attuned to FPS gaming and find the game impossible to enjoy due to the immediate, constant deaths. We all practice, we all get better in time, but how do you explain to your casual friends that they will likely never be able to compete on this particular game because they are at a disadvantage from the beginning of every match due to blatant cheaters? They're spectating their deaths and asking how the guy that killed them had zero recoil using a heavy recoil gun. What do you tell them? "No idea man, guess you've gotta just git gud". Nope. It shouldn't be happening. We should be applauding people who killed us, not perpetually watching them using a mouse and keyboard to annihilate less skilled players.
3) Gamers are very toxic these days, and it's because they're overly competitive and will do anything to win, whilst getting some weird gratification from putting others down anonymously on the Internet, and claiming you're only dying because you're bad at the game, etc.. This is problematic for many reasons. Not least because it makes you a * human being, but because it keeps shrouding the fact that this cheating 100% exists, is 1000% a bigger wider issue than they care to believe, and assume that "because it doesn't happen to them, it doesn't happen at all". All of these factors combine to give the illusion that it's not as big an issue as it really is, which inadvertently means less will get done about it. YOU may not notice it, and that's fine, but I DO. It may not affect your enjoyment, and that's fine too, but it affects MINE, and tonnes of other players, whether they realise it or not.
4) The report feature is still missing over a year after its removal for "tweaking". What's sadder, is that there was never a guarantee as to how effective it ever was. But at least we had the option to try and police the game to make it fairer and more enjoyable for the MAJORITY, not for all the try hards with their heirlooms and laser beam accuracy, making umpteen smurf accounts to get 30 kills per game vs all the new and unskilled players. I mean how horrific does your personality have to be, to create new accounts in order to get more damage and kills by abusing and exploiting the SBMM system? Is it not bad enough that you use a mouse and keyboard and deny it, giggling in your mum's basement with your pants around your ankles?
I know a lot of you already know about all this, which is why you're all secretly using it and vehemently denying it, and why my HDD is filling up more by the day with clips I've saved of blatant cheating and aiming/recoil exploitation. But for those players who aren't aware and just assume they're not very skilled at the game or consider quitting etc, this is for you. You don't suck at the game, you're just getting killed repeatedly by no-lifers, try hards, and people with psychological complexes so strong that they have to gain unfair advantages on console to feel validated in life or remotely good at the game - That's the hard truth of it all.
To Respawn: As above. It's a bigger problem than even you guys probably know. I need a solution because my enjoyment in this game (along with tonnes of others) is now being utterly sucked dry with every death and every new clip saved to my HDD of blatant cheating.
To the cheaters: Why can't you bring your pitiful selves to the same playing field and just get better at using a controller like the rest of us eh? If you want to use a M&K, why not just get back on your PC and stop exploiting every unfair advantage to make you feel good about yourselves on console? Or is it because you feel like a big fish in a small pond here, and would otherwise get stomped over on PC? How ironic it is, that you don't enjoy that feeling, but have no issue inflicting it upon others.
It's a matter of recognizing how things are. You can blame Sony, blame cheaters, blame whomever you want and while you wouldn't be wrong, the status quo is you can use M&KB on console and EA has no say about it whatsoever.
That's why it's just not a good idea for EA or Blizzard or whomever to come out with statements about how MKB is bad and you shouldn't do it. Because it's only hurting those who follow 'the rules'. Rules in this case which cannot be enforced whatsoever. So it's only helping people who ignore the rules by setting something unattainable.
I'm blessed to return and see that no one has responded in such a way as to allude to the fact that they are, themselves, a cheating lowlife. I'm glad my frustration is shared, albeit a bittersweet feeling as I also feel like it's a pointless argument falling on deaf ears.
In response to me using a M&K, essentially a form of "if I can't beat them, I'll join them" - unfortunately is rather eat my own *. I play PS4 in part because it feels like a game console, which includes a controller. I enjoy that, and my comfortable positioning whilst playing, the feel of buttons over keys, etc. It's a very aesthetic thing for me, weird as that may seem. I'd play games like Guild Wars happily on my laptop, or strategy games, point and click, etc.. But fps for me will always be a console feeling, reminiscent of the days I used to play on LAN with my schoolmates etc.
I'm not bad at the game, I still do well enough, I manage to win games every so often and it feels great knowing I do so against the odds at times. Particularly as my teammate is always my partner who doesn't play as avidly and as fiercely as I do. I just wish sometimes that her and I could log on and not always have to be above our best just to enjoy and stay alive. I'd love to just come across the occasional casual fight, even an easy fight, or a fun lucky grenade kill, or a smart standoff between legend abilities. I'd like for her to be allowed to grow in her abilities, get better at the game through fair practice and experience, but this is hard because she's getting mowed down by cheaters every game too.. Right now, all we get are intense, rushed massacres. Where a team is so confident of their cheating and lack of recoil that they'll just brazenly run across the map, burst through the doors and wipe us out instantly with an unflinching, unswaying gun in each hand, as is immediately evident from spectating them after death. I have to literally be at my best, and my most tactical to play Apex right now, and I don't come here to work another shift and feel hard done by, I come to relax!
If you need me to post system/hardware info just let me know and I'll do my best.
I don't really know much at all about computers so anyone willing to guide me to where to find the needed information would be greatly appreciated.
Looking at what you provided you are using the standard Windows driver for the mouse. No idea what model mouse you have as you left out that most important detail about the issues you are having. My Logitech G2 mouse when using the native Windows driver is really temper-mental with the clicks unless using the latest Mouse driver from Logitech.
Apparently, the mouse I have must be a terrible mouse.. It's REDRAGON's S101-BA-1 "Combo" (came with keyboard, mouse pad and headset). After Installing the driver, since it comes with it's own program to set up macros and specify certain settings, I click the button that says "Update Driver" it simply doesn't do ANYTHING... I can assume that it simply doesn't require an UPDATE..?? and the driver(and its program) is fine as is.... but now I need to figure out if I need to "change what driver is being used for the mouse"...
A friend told me that there's got to be some setting for this, so I'll go look that up :l
Not feeling too confident though..
Issues can often track back to things we don't expect. Stuttering frames in games often link back to mouse drivers. Logic would not dictate that to be the case but nevertheless its fact. Regardless trying something at least eliminates a variable if not fixing it and you try something else. I would try another mouse. Not sure why a mouse would work right in one game or another. I don't know what games but say for instance those are all unreal engine games etc. There could be some commonality to those games that makes it happen verse others.
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