Volume of festival trumpet

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Richard Wildhirt

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Jun 26, 2016, 11:33:15 AM6/26/16
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I play on a Rodgers 940 every Sunday, and one of the weak points of the instrument is the festival trumpet. It's suppose to be heard plainly over full organ, right? Well, it's no louder than the trompette on another manual. Does anyone know if I can get in there and crank up the festival trumpet?

Thanks for the help.

Richard Wildhirt
St. Luke's Lutheran Church, Federal Way, WA
Rodgers 940 (c. 1996) and PR-300S

Noel jones

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Jun 26, 2016, 11:35:56 AM6/26/16
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No.

But a tech with the software can.
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Ralph Cullen

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Jun 26, 2016, 1:14:57 PM6/26/16
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There is a setting for the festival trumpet in the menu. FFF non coupling, or FF coupling. Check that out first. 

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Noel jones

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Jun 26, 2016, 1:43:52 PM6/26/16
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Ralph's right!

Keene Karen

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In my experience, Ralph is always right!  

You can count on Cullen!!!

Ralph Cullen

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Jun 26, 2016, 3:59:09 PM6/26/16
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Whaaaaaaa!


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Jerry Strong

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Jun 26, 2016, 5:15:30 PM6/26/16
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I also had the expression of the Festival Trumpet moved to the swell pedal on our church 940. The dealer can do that with the GC-8 programming box.

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Jerry Strong
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Keene Karen

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Jun 26, 2016, 6:20:38 PM6/26/16
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Oh Ralph!

Not being well versed in New Zealander vernacular, I can't be sure what "Whaaaaaaa!" might mean.  I assume it is an extended yet truncated version of "What???"

I do recall learning from you, about 15 years ago, the wonderfully useful expression "Works a treat. . ."  which might not be Kiwi slang at all.

Karen—USA Kiwi bird (and definitely flightless after a scare-plane adventure that actually managed to land in Charlotte, North Carolina.)

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Ron Pearcy

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Jun 26, 2016, 7:16:53 PM6/26/16
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Agree absolutely!!


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Ralph Cullen

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Jun 26, 2016, 7:18:39 PM6/26/16
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Hi Karen,
The "Whaaa! was short for "what? As if to say "Surely not! You are too kind!"
And "works a treat" is definitely a Kiwi saying of great approval...
Thanks for your kind word.
Ralph
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Jerry Strong

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Jun 26, 2016, 8:50:30 PM6/26/16
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The recording sounds great!  Thanks for sharing.

 

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Subject: Re: Frog Music's ROUG Forum Volume of festival trumpet

 

The 940 was the very first PDI organ I experienced and we have two such installed in New Zealand. I think the specification and that grand "Rodgers Sound" is very well represented in that model and others of the time like the 960. Apart from some of the 16 bit samples and their slightly "hooty" sound, the overall ensemble and chorus of those organs is what I think Rodgers is trending back to with the Tonal Revolution. It was a fabulous time in the overall history of a great company and a great product.

 

The flexibility of the GC8 voicing too was very good. I remember I did a recording "hymn sing" with a small church where I grew up and couldn't squeeze any more than four of the six channels of audio into the place. It was an easy task to re-route a whole division into the Swell pair.

 

Here's a recording of  some of the singing: 1997 I think it was. Recorded on a cheap Cassette recorder with a $90 microphone. It was such a great night, I wish now I had got some decent recording gear. Just 35 in the choir and about another 60 or so in the congregation.

 

Rodgers 940: Guide me o Thou Great Jehovah.. Apologies to the purists over the bad playing....

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19118195/Guide%20me%20oh%20Thou%20Great%20Jehovah.wav

 

Ralph,

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Keene Karen

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Jun 26, 2016, 10:01:49 PM6/26/16
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What a wonderful sounding instrument.  

And the hymn playing is glorious!  Love your grand tempo and the spacious treatment of phrase endings and the generous time between stanzas. Absolutely masterful! 

Karen, in Erie, PA

Ralph Cullen

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Jun 26, 2016, 10:14:50 PM6/26/16
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Well Karen, again I must say, you are too kind! But thank you.
All I do is play hymns. I have very little time or skill to practice much else, so again thanks.
Ralph


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Ron Pearcy

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Jun 27, 2016, 12:01:00 AM6/27/16
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Superb accompaniment ... you play with passion ... thanks for sharing. 


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Ralph Cullen

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Jun 27, 2016, 12:10:05 AM6/27/16
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Thanks Ron
Ralph

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Keene Karen

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Jun 27, 2016, 2:07:44 AM6/27/16
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Ah, but Ralph, you have identified what's important—and in church it is the hymns and service music that must head the list.  Too many organists spend their efforts on preludes, postludes and other incidental music—much of which is not essential at all.  They give short shrift to the people's music.  

Some years ago I heard of a church organist who wondered how much attention (if any) people were paying to the prelude music. As an experiment, this organist played the same prelude six or more weeks in a row.  Nobody noticed!

Some of the hymn playing here in the USA is dreadful. Too many organists seem to believe that speed is a virtue. They rush through the hymns, cheating the long notes and jumping the gun between phrases. There is no grandeur, no time to let the text sink in.  

And so it was a joy to hear you leading CWM RHONDDA with such a thoughtfully intentional tempo and with such breadth of phrasing. Your love for hymns is clearly evident. And worshippers respond by singing from the heart. 

Cheering you on!

Karen, in Erie, PA (USA)    

Ralph Cullen

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Jun 27, 2016, 3:07:18 AM6/27/16
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Thanks again Karen.
Frankly, I have to confess that it is this very thing that has drawn me into the church organ business. I'm really here for one thing, and that is to promote the organ as the essential inspiration for worship. I think very few people understand worship especially as it relates to music in the church, for much of what we observe is about performance and technical excellence. All of this is important, but without inspiration, or shall I say, " revelation" it can be dead form. I believe that it is impossible to play and not communicate what is in our hearts, so if we expect a congregation to sing with passion , and believe what they sing, then we need to believe it ourselves.
This of course makes it critical that we sing good theology. Not always represented by some contemporary music.
Cheers
Ralph

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Richard Wildhirt

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Jun 29, 2016, 3:44:36 PM6/29/16
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Thanks, Ralph, but it's already set at FFF.

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Ralph Cullen

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Jun 29, 2016, 3:52:11 PM6/29/16
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Hi Richard,
In that case it will need to be rejoiced. I think the FFF and the FF voicing are separate, so each level can be adjusted to taste. It will require a GC8 voicer or a GC10. If the latter is used I THINK you cannot go back to using GC 8 once the voicing is burned to flash.
Cheers
Ralph


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Ralph Cullen

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Jun 29, 2016, 4:44:40 PM6/29/16
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Haha I just read my post. Rejoiced! I meant re-voiced.

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Keene Karen

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Jun 29, 2016, 5:18:50 PM6/29/16
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Ralph!  

I chortled right out loud when I spotted your deliciously appropriate typo!

Indeed, no doubt about it: a wimpy festival trumpet definitely needs to be "rejoiced!"

"Rejoice in the Lord always; and again I say, Rejoice!  (Philippians 4:4)

And yea, verily, Call your tech—and blow up the trumpet in the new moon. . .(Psalm 81: 3)

Karen Keene, Erie, PA
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