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Scott Blystone

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Apr 19, 2009, 7:26:30 PM4/19/09
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Hi Chris,

You there?

My Google address is actually sbl...@gmail.com, but I seldom use it and don't have a valid key for it. I have  couple of auxiliary addresses set up in the account. One of them is this address, and I've subscribed with this address.

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Scott Blystone
87 Hidden Valley Road
Rochester, New York 14624


If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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b...@benw.us

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Apr 19, 2009, 7:44:08 PM4/19/09
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Question: Does anyone know how good of a job (if at all) Google Groups
does at hiding your email address from bots?
Generally I only give this address to real, live, human beings to
prevent it from being spammed. Then I create forwarders such as
pgp@mydomain which forwards to the right place.

Scott Blystone

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Apr 19, 2009, 7:58:03 PM4/19/09
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Hi Ben and Chris,

Well, I have belonged to a couple other Google groups for quite some time, and thus far I have had to issues. You have gotten me curious, though. I think I'll do some Web searches on the topic, obviously NOT using Google's own search engine!

I used to use a lot of aliases also, particularly on the blystone.net domain. It really seems live server-side SPAM filtering has gotten much better in the last couple of years, so I have gradually moved away from this practice. This address is a real, full account and not an alias. scott.b...@me.com and ny...@me.com are aliases, not so much for SPAM filtering, but in order to make my address easier to remember for certain people. All the scott@blystone.* addresses are also real but (for the moment) forwarded into this Mobile Me account.

Mobile Me had some big issues back a year or so ago, but is running very smoothly now. The blystone.* accounts are hosted at http://www.fastmail.fm. Their IMAP service and server-side SPAM filtering is the best!

When I saw that Chris had an account at lavabit.com I looked up the Web site and read about the service. Their SPAM features are really very intriguing, but the company doesn't seem to have any way of contacting them other than a Web form. They really do not identify exactly who they are. Nevertheless, I did sign up for a trial account. Chris, can you tell me any additional information about them?

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Scott Blystone
Rochester, New York

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One cat just leads to another. - Ernest Hemingway

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b...@benw.us

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Apr 19, 2009, 8:07:31 PM4/19/09
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It looks as though Groups does obfuscate email addresses...
I've been using Google Apps with Postini for all of my mail and have
had no real problems, but I'm not sure if that is because of the
Postini or because of how careful I have been to not have my email in
plain text anywhere on the www. But it would be interesting to know a
bit more about exactly what measures Google takes.

On Apr 19, 7:58 pm, Scott Blystone <sbly...@me.com> wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2009, at 7:44 PM, b...@benw.us wrote:
>
>
>
> > Question: Does anyone know how good of a job (if at all) Google Groups
> > does at hiding your email address from bots?
> > Generally I only give this address to real, live, human beings to
> > prevent it from being spammed. Then I create forwarders such as
> > pgp@mydomain which forwards to the right place.
> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----
>
> Hi Ben and Chris,
>
> Well, I have belonged to a couple other Google groups for quite some  
> time, and thus far I have had to issues. You have gotten me curious,  
> though. I think I'll do some Web searches on the topic, obviously NOT  
> using Google's own search engine!
>
> I used to use a lot of aliases also, particularly on the blystone.net  
> domain. It really seems live server-side SPAM filtering has gotten  
> much better in the last couple of years, so I have gradually moved  
> away from this practice. This address is a real, full account and not  
> an alias. scott.blyst...@me.com and n...@me.com are aliases, not so  
> much for SPAM filtering, but in order to make my address easier to  
> remember for certain people. All the scott@blystone.* addresses are  
> also real but (for the moment) forwarded into this Mobile Me account.
>
> Mobile Me had some big issues back a year or so ago, but is running  
> very smoothly now. The blystone.* accounts are hosted athttp://www.fastmail.fm
> . Their IMAP service and server-side SPAM filtering is the best!
>
> When I saw that Chris had an account at lavabit.com I looked up the  
> Web site and read about the service. Their SPAM features are really  
> very intriguing, but the company doesn't seem to have any way of  
> contacting them other than a Web form. They really do not identify  
> exactly who they are. Nevertheless, I did sign up for a trial account.  
> Chris, can you tell me any additional information about them?
>
> --
> Scott Blystone
> Rochester, New York
>
> CAcert.org Assurer      http://www.cacert.org
> Thawte Notary          http://www.thawte.com
> GSWoT Introducer        http://www.gswot.org
>
> One cat just leads to another. - Ernest Hemingway
>
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Chris Acheson

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Apr 20, 2009, 4:56:36 PM4/20/09
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Google Groups requires you to complete a CAPTCHA in order to get
complete email addresses from website. I guess CAPTCHAs are pretty
breakable these days, but it seems more like spammers tend to target the
groups themselves rather than the individual posters.

On another group that I run, I set it so that anyone can join, but
message from new members are moderated. Once a new member posts a legit
message demonstrating that they're a real person, I give them full
access. I'll probably do the same thing here once the spammers start
making the rounds.

- -Chris

b...@benw.us wrote:
> It looks as though Groups does obfuscate email addresses...
> I've been using Google Apps with Postini for all of my mail and have
> had no real problems, but I'm not sure if that is because of the
> Postini or because of how careful I have been to not have my email in
> plain text anywhere on the www. But it would be interesting to know a
> bit more about exactly what measures Google takes.

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