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FNL: There's aperception at MIT that there has been a diminution in the quality oflife. Years ago, the faculty had $800 towards travel to a scientificmeeting once a year. That's disappeared. We once had free parking oncampus. There was a slight fee and it increased at one point, but nowthe subsidy has essentially disappeared. It was once easy to find aparking space. Now if you go away in the middle of the day and comeback, forget about it. There's some perception that building serviceshave not been quite as good as they used to be. Some of this comesunder facilities and services, all of whose people report to you. Sowe wonder two things. One, what's your general read on thisperception? Of course, you don't have the history here, so it's hardfor you to make a comparison. And two, to what extent does thequality of life of the faculty enter into your decision-makingprocess?

CURRY: It's got to becritical to that process in many ways. I have to think broadly aswell about the quality of life for our staff and students on thecampus, and how what we do affects that. I have learned as muchhistory as I could absorb in my 10 months here and can't speak verywell for how the past was. I think we have some work ahead of us toimprove the overall look and cleanliness of the campus. And parkingis a tough issue. Our operating context is the City of Cambridge, andI am just coming to understand through permitting processes, amongother activities, just how much focus there is on traffic andparking. And I must say that sometimes we were looked at by others ashaving low parking rates, and thereby encouraging traffic in thecity, when many people in the city would like to discourage peopledriving their cars and instead coming to work on the T or anotherway. So I think we have a real balancing act in front of us in how weretain sufficient parking here for our faculty and our staff that andhow we balance the pressing issues of the city. Coming from L.A. I'maccustomed to high institutional parking rates. I paid extraordinaryparking rates, as did everyone. We need to thoroughly think throughrelationships among number of parking spaces, how we charge forparking, and how we facilitate other kinds of travel, perhaps throughincreased subsidies for T travel. At this point, I'm much more awareof the problems than I am of the solutions.

CURRY: Fairly simple.When Bill Dickson [former Senior Vice President] introducedthe parking fee, (this is where I do understand some history), hesaid that it should be held constant for a specific period, which wasthree or four years; after which one should expect an increase of 5%a year cumulatively. And that time came. Let me mention one otherthing. We have very little capability through our charging mechanismsfor parking to reinvest in and refurbish a parking garage. We havesome great problems, for example, with the East garage and the Albanygarage. And so one would like to see some resources available throughthe parking revenues themselves, not necessarily through the generalfund, that would enable us to keep those facilities in better shape,and we just don't have the resources to do that. So in fact ourparking infrastructure, primarily the garages, is in a pretty sadstate. There has been a very thoughtful parking committee on thecampus that has taken a hard look at these issues. Frankly, Ianticipate a much larger agenda in the coming year to try to pullmany things together.

FNL: One of theprominent issues is the failure to recognize that the salarydisparity at the Institute is extraordinary. We charge heads oflaboratories the same parking fee as incoming secretaries.

CURRY: This issueshould be considered. One thing that I have learned is that hugenumbers of people who work near the Kendall Square station use the Tto get to work. And I do know, but I can't quote the amount, that wehave an incentive program for people who need to use the T, and thiscame about some time ago. It's certainly not for everybody. Itprobably depends on things like the number of changes between trainlines that you have to make, and other factors. But we are underconsiderbale pressure from the City to encourage the use of publictransportation to reduce the flow of traffic into and out ofCambridge. This is also a function of the fact that development inthe area is substantially greater than it used to be, especially asyou look to the north of campus. That, too, brought with it trafficand parking issues that we have to deal with.

FNL: You mentioned theinfrastructure of the garages, and that brings up sort of a general,physical plant question. In your time here, what has been yourassessment of the infrastructure, particularly with respect tobuildings and grounds, and what are your plans? How are you attackingthe problem of finding out what buildings need to be repaired,replaced? Is the East garage safe? Are the buildings safe? You canwalk along the Chemistry building and see exposed steelgirders.

CURRY: I've seen them.Let's say this: We have a significant problem and I think we have apretty good handle on it. We had, before my arrival, a very thoroughstudy of all of our buildings and ratings of where they stand betweenoptimum functionality and their present position. And it's a seriousproblem, there's no question about it. You can see it in the exteriorof the Chemistry building, for example. You can see it in manybuildings' interiors. You can see it looking at the windows of themain group. So, yes, you can see it. I will say what has been done todate. We have the study. In the initiatives that Chuck Vest hasannounced, which include the tuition benefit for Ph.D. students ongrants in summer and the presidential fellowships, we have $20million a year to contribute to the deferred maintenance problem,which is a serious amount of money compared to what it was, which wasvery, very little.

CURRY: Yes. And in factwe have supplemented that in the present year with additionalfinancing to kick start some critical projects. One of the largeprojects, as you know, is the Chemistry building. Also, we haveranked our deferred maintenance issues with respect to things likesafety, where we know, for example, that given facilities needrenovations in their fire safety programs or have othersafety-related issues. We are starting there first.

CURRY: It has beenevaluated, yes. And from what I've seen and what I've read, we arecomfortable today, but we do know where we need to put ourfirst-order efforts. So the good news is we have comprehensivelyreviewed all of the buildings on the campus and have gooddocumentation of what needs to be done. We have prioritized the workand kick started the deferred maintenance program. Now there's morework that needs to be done, and sometimes it's hard to get a feelingthat you're getting ahead of this, because some areas will not betreated immediately and will continue to show their signs of age. Thebiggest single problem we saw in this study is how many of ourbuildings were constructed in a relatively short period of time andturned 30 years old at roughly the same time, which is basically thelife cycle time for HVAC systems and all of the infrastructuresupporting the buildings. One of the examples is the Chemistrybuilding.

FNL: Sort of changingthe subject a little bit, what about vehicular traffic on campus? Ithas long been a problem, from the day in which Paul Gray was nearlystruck by a vehicle on his way from the President's house to hisoffice. Today, where there's a constant battle to limit and controlthe number of vehicles on campus. With the forthcoming renovations,it seems like that's only going to get worse. Has there been a studyof that?

CURRY: Yes. And we havenot solved it, but we have a very active study under way of howtraffic will flow when we have the Stata site, for example, underconstruction, and when we have another site to the west on VassarStreet, the undergraduate residence under construction. We shouldalso note that we are not in total control of our destiny here. Thecity and the state will be tearing up a major portion ofMassachusetts Avenue, probably during our construction period, toreplace the storm drains. It's a much-needed replacement, as you cantell by some of the flooding on this campus because the storm drainssimply can't carry the water. When we include the fact thatMassachusetts Avenue will be under major repair, I think we will havea serious traffic problem to try to manage and solve. Some of ourissues with parking and with each new building that comes online arein the traffic studies that we have to review with the city. Thosetraffic studies are as much for our benefit as they are for thecity's benefit in thinking through flows on the campus and inparticular, in thinking through how we cope through the constructionperiods. I don't have an answer for you yet. I can't tell you whatthe traffic patterns will be, but we are painfully aware of thepotential problems.

FNL: In otherinstitutions and corporations they find ways to bring supplies in andstore them in a central location - and this also includes waste,which is an increasing problem - and then pipe them in and out, whichwould of course require a huge infrastructure cost, but in terms ofeffectiveness it's really spectacular. You don't see peopledelivering individual tanks of gases to any individual laboratoriesor liquefied gases or taking wastes out of individual laboratories.It all goes through piped areas to central storehouses.

CURRY: Let me say firstorder, that that seems like a dream we may not realize in theforeseeable future, because it's an extraordinarily costly one.Creating a whole new infrastructure of its own, actually. But withthe advent of new buildings on campus and traffic issues, we arelooking at materials handling in a serious way. First of all, itwould surely be desirable to get the large trucks off the malls. Andwe have to think about it systematically. It appears we may havethought about materials handling one location at a time. But theamount of construction that we would anticipate on the campus in thenext several years and the frequency with which key areas are beingdeveloped, provide an opportunity to focus on the broad issues ofmaterials handling, everything from gases to paper deliveries tochemical supplies.

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