Are you Actively Looking for a BL

[daveofk...@gmail.com]

Just wondered whether anyone is actually looking for a boy, or is it a case of sitting around HOPING that one will suddenly appear and say YOOHOO here I am?

I have to admit that I dont have the opportunities these days to seek them out, actually in my PRIME regards Boys they did seem to come to me. I am sometimes tempted to go offer my services to the likes of the local kids Soccer tea, scouts of something just to be able to see them if I am honest, because i dont even get that now?

So what if anything are you doing.

[Sam Johnson]

Hey, Dave, I'm listed in the white pages -- surely I can expect a call sometime soon?

 

Are you familiar with Thomas Mann's "Death in Venice" at all? About an elderly writer who goes to Venice and falls hopelessly in love with a boy (~14yo in the story, but based on a 11yo in real life), then slowly goes insane watching him from a distance. Never even speaks to the lad. That's far more my style.

[daveofk...@gmail.com]

I have seen the film Sam, watched it a few times and must admit could feel myself in the guys shoes, (the kid is rather cute isnt he) Dirk Bogarde played the part I thought portraying OUR sense of frustration perfectly.

I am afraid I am not even at that stage Sam, I have to make do with furiously browsing the web?  and sighing, thinking WHY ME, having had such an ACTIVE BL life in my younger days I find this inactivity hard to accept

[Sam Johnson]

So, inactive due to the witch hunt danger around today, Dave? I mean if you've got the runs on the board, shouldn't you still be out there taking strike? (hope you follow the cricket!)

 

I'm a pretty unsociable sort of guy and only make any meaningful contact with boys through a fairly small network of family/friends. Still, I'd far prefer quality over quantity.  I would never be out there in the thick of it in the youth/sporting groups or whatever.

[Loveboy Rob]

I personally hang around playgrounds and schoolyards with lots of candy. NOT!  haha Seriously though, this question cannot be answered truthfully on this public forum. Different men have different ways and means for meeting youth to develop a relationship. However, for anyone to divulge what works for them here, on this forum, is dangerous territory. The Law impeccably states that freedom of speech and literature it tolerated, however there exists a VERY grey area that makes all that freedom illegal. That is when public discussions or writings share "How To" instructions of seducing youth among other BLs. Should anyone have a foolproof system in place that works for them, take it to an email. There once was guy who basically wrote and sold on ebooks a, "Seduction of Youth for Dummies" book. I don't have to tell you what happened to him in very short order, the pedo police ordered his book though amazon and certainly didn't show up at the author's home for a book autograph. He was charged with promoting sexual molestation and sent away for a log time.

[Sam Johnson]

It's so fucked. How can they allow a book like Nabokov's "Lolita" to remain publicly available? The description of Humbert's seduction of 12yo Lolita is very explicit--could easily be used as a training manual.

 

I wonder if one day they'll start using that sort of approach to get porn writers. You could argue that a story featuring a seduction of a minor has a strong "How-To" element, is instructing/inspiring men to go and try it. Hell, I sometimes wish I'd take my own advice in the stories I write!

[daveofk...@gmail.com]

Oh hell Rob, I was not advocating far less expecting any of the guys to come and say Oh yeah and THIS is the way to do it?? God Forbid hahaha, it was more a sort of enquiry if they were looking or waiting for it to happen i suppose.#

I must admit after reading your post it sort of  made me realize i maybe should be more careful myself what i say on the open forum/ what is the old saying "Walls have ears and eyes?" we never know who might be looking in?

[Loveboy Rob]

You did nothing wrong, Dave. Just that there are braggers out there trying to impress a sense of envy in those who aren't so lucky, so for their own good, i warned them, "Loose lips sink ships." Most men get caught because they become careless,look no farther than Jerry Sandowski of PenState.He wasn't hiding fuck all in the end, everyone knew he liked boys, they covered that up for years, INCLUDING Joe Paterno. I'd bet my left nut that a small pedo ring existed that DID manage to get covered up and Jerry the scapegoat when the heat came down. What we BL's can't lose sight of is that Jerry was VERY good to his boys who had nothing. Sorry, bleeding hearts, THERE ARE NO FREE RIDES IN LIFE! Put out or get out.Sorry to be blunt, but it's true. I am not mother Teresa carer for the children. I expect return on investment and have yet to find one who didn't see the forest for the trees.I don't seduce them on the sofa, or try to feel them up to get things started. When I feel they are ready (Months?) I come right out and tell them what I want from the relationship giving them days to dwell on it. Surprising? the next day they call as normal to chit chat, not having to say anything, the call speaks for itself, he's made his decision on his own. A man must read a boy, get a feeling about him, a sixth sense we have, Too many men bark up the wrong tree. The sports minded kid with a million friends, 4 brothers and a father (aggressive nature, type 'A' personality) is going to be a challenge not worth risking in my opinion. However the meek & mild (type 'B') are much more receptive to loving a man. Some men also lower themselves to a boys intellect, try and be young at heart and looking ever so foolish. A boy needs to be brought up to your intellect. Engage in adult conversation, let him give his slants on current events. You'll be surprised how they absorb things but never taken serious due to age. The generation gap quickly dissolving, ad sex is a mature minded activity.

[Sam Johnson]

Some men also lower themselves to a boys intellect, try and be young at heart and looking ever so foolish.

True. And there's nothing funnier than watching some uptight adult, with no real interest in kids, trying to "get on their wavelength", usually to impress other adults with their fine, caring nature. I would guess most boy-lovers have a basic ability to get on alright with kids--favourite uncle sort of stuff--and it's fun to see the straight normal folk fuck up so badly at a bit of basic kid-socialising. It's also an insight as to why they can hate BL's so much--basic fear and envy at being outdone.

[daveofk...@gmail.com]

Once again you hit home with so many points that I totally agree with Rob, one of my "things" is that the boy no matter how young is able to converse logically and not become a quivering wreck scared to open his mouth, i like to be able to talk to them and receive replies not one word mutterings.

I have always made it quite open with boys  that the "friendship" has its beginning but that it has to blossom and what I expect from it, and yes amazingly very few in fact none that i can think of, have ever really disappeared screaming PAEDO? and yes in some cases it will take some time to nurture but that to me is all part and parcel and what makes the eventual coupling so worthwhile

[darren...@gmail.com]

Well, I wouldn't mind if some cute young thing knocked on my door, but I'm not expecting it.

I grew up knowing I was going to hell because I liked other males. In school I was generally hanging with the teachers, not other students, so I would have somebody I could actually TALK to. Never was the wild, rambunctious, roustabout type of boy. No, I was the quiet reader, introspective and alone. And if spite of basically being raped by my father, I would lie awake in bed dreaming of being kidnapped by someone who would be gentle, tender and loving.

Now that I'm "all grown up" I dream of being able to be there for a young boy, to help guide them on the path that will eventually lead them to become a man. A job I see as a solem honor while all too many parents seem like if they didn't have their kids names and birthdates in their phones, they'd NEVER remember. (And forget anyway half the time.)

But I grew up at a time when society didn't approve. Still doesn't in some ways. That left me feeling that at least if I was dead, I wouldn't be actively EVIL my liking other males. And worse yet, to want to spread that EVIL by wanting to reach out. Then came McMartin and all that nonsense.

My dream job, if I could still work, would be in a day care, Big Brother, after school intervention, that sort of thing. Whey I could reach out to boys who need help. Who I -could- help. And in so doing, help them become the best that they can be while also healing old wounds in myself for things having NOT gone that way.

But I'm old. I'm disabled. I've got lots of time, but no strength or money. Washed up and discarded by society before my time.

Ah.... Maybe that's what I look for most. That sparkle in the eye of a boy who still believe that dreams CAN come true and if they just clap hard enough, farries will live!