Lego Pirates 2005

[Lilly Solo]

The LEGO Pirates theme (1989-1990 LEGOLAND Pirates) is introduced in 1989. LEGO Pirates is one of the first themes to appear since the launch of LEGOLAND Town, Castle, Space and FABULAND in the late 1970s. The LEGO Pirates theme becomes very popular with its focus on the classic idea of Caribbean pirates pitting their wits against soldiers of colonial empires and occasionally encountering indigenous people. A classic story of good and evil needs firearms. Flintlock pistols and muskets are introduced for the first time. So are LEGO minifigures with multiple facial expressions with scruffy beards and thick moustaches, a peg-leg and hook hand, though the smiling expression still holds sway for years. Specific elements for the construction of large sailing ship models are also introduced for the first time.

I tried searching but could find no direct information on the nature / background of the different factions that back up the usage of them in many mocs. It's clear from many MOCs that Redcoats and Bluecoats are enemies. Are there some background information available where I can learn more about the factions and the conflicts?

4) And maybe, just maybe, there is a much deeper link between ones true alignment and the factions. So that all people ultimately belongs to the bluecoat or redcoat camp even if they have never even touched a piece of LEGO?

Technically (and clearly only a sidenote in this context) I understand that the "Bluecoats" are the "Imperial Soldiers" from the 89-93 era. While the "Redcoats" are the Imperial Guard from the 92-94 + 2009 era. Both only sided as the enemies of the Pirates, and have never occurred together in LEGO "prime fiction"? Brickipedia reference: Imperial Guards / Imperial Soldiers

but if you look on the troops, there are two fractions of redcoats (old and new) and other faction that nearly everyone puts them little attention, which is the Armada, perhaps by the short time they were in the Lego collection

Just as Admiral Croissant says, everyone can make up his own story. I mainly have blue coats, but also a few of the new red coats. When I was a child, the blue coats defended the West Indies colonies of the Kingdom of Legoland. And I still consider it that way. What the red coats represent, I haven't thought about yet. Probably, they will be of another unit, but from the same faction.

but another nation would add a new range of possibilities such as alliances or new wars to be fought. But enough of my ideas. I think that the Bluecoats and the Redcoats are the same. Empires rise and fall. the redcoat empire could of been built on

Also, i have seen some Bluecoats to be used as US soldiers and Navy sailors. This is my 2nd though about the side of the Bluecoats in my Lego world, i just can how ever imagine Bluecoats to be officers in my Lego world.

Given the lack of bluecoats I have - THREE!!! I only had one opportunity when I was younger to conceive these as the obvious opposition (historically) and that was when I built a small MOC of the Battle of Waterloo, with Welligton's army advancing and Napoleon's retreating. To balance the scene I supplemented a lot of other blue bodies, and either turned them upside down or the one's that were piratey I made them artillery soldiers or just plain corpses. Isn't LEGO exciting :D

For the most part I've used my original Redcoats which number SIX to represent a small force while my three Bludocoast came to represent the officers, perhaps not correct, but because my backdrop was mostly naval it fitted in well. Now I'm at odd's how to fit the new Redcoat design in with my older Redcoats. Do I make them Lieutenants, or if LEGO permits, with more Redcoats to come out (I hope, given the measly two redcoast thus far) perhaps they should be my privates and the older redcoats my officers. Making way for the Blucoats to be admirality.

I do hope we get more redcoats soon. Some of the navy-coloured East India Company soldiers from World's End would be nice too. A good way methinks for LEGO to reintroduce the Blue soldier. A different pattern to the current one would be nice too, more in lines with the movie.

personaly i like having a third party.Redcoats and Bluecoats are about the same but another nation would add a new range of possibilities such as alliances or new wars to be fought.[...] I think that the Bluecoats and the Redcoats are the same.

For one, an older Governor Broadside appeared in 6242 Soldier's Fort alongside Red Coats. Wouldn't make much sense for a French governor to appear alongside British troops without a highly ranking officer or dignitary present.

Secondly, if you look at the British and French uniforms, you'll note the French uniform differ from the English Naval uniform and in my opinion the bluecoat minifigures more closely resemble the British Navy.

This is how mine work. I have one Admiral Woodhouse (Marine Major), one Redcoat officer (Marine Captain), two new Redcoats and two old (Marines). I have one Broadside (Admiral of navy), three Bluecoats with tricornes (Naval officers) and any number of pirates (sailors or sometimes pirates). I also have some Islanders (Ook Ook Ak Ook! ) I also have the CC and the old IF (CC is a naval ship and IF is Marine transport vessel)

Maybe I can add some clarification, I am a naval historian... There are two thoughts on the American uniforms, but in 1803 was when congress finally set a standard of Blue and Gold. The first thought was that blue was chosen because France wore blue also... but since the United States was involved in a quasi war with France in 1797 when the first actual regulations were written (in fact the whole American Navy was re founded that year to fight French commerce raiding) this is unlikely. The second thought is probably more likely, British officers wore blue coats. Every navy in the world wanted to be as up to date and as powerful as the Royal Navy. Emulation happened around the globe. It is likely that the United States copied the Royal Navy. Lastly, American Marines also wore blue coats, but they were much darker than the ones that Lego figs wear. By the style of dress, I would say that the redcoats would be British and the Bluecoats French during the 7 years war period. That is only if we HAVE to assign a nationality.

So I would not say the blue coats were Americans, although I could see them as revolutionary officers, but not the Navy itself. Actually, on another note, the white duck uniform came about in the 1820s when it turned out that the American Navy did most of its work between the tropics and in South America. So by 1820, you had "white coats."

While history may differ to the made up history of in-universe lego, I would say that bluecoats are the Royal Navy, and that redcoats are the Royal Marines, these two "parts" of the boaty forces of the British worked together (although a naval officer would've been more importent than a marine). Due to this, it is technically incorrect that there were boat sets released with only marines on board as they wouldn't be able to man a ship as they are just soldiers. However, the 2011 (brick beards bounty and similar) is more accurate as the marines have a fort and small rowing boats, however, the next line of pirate sets (2015/16) got it all wrong again by giving the navy forts and big guns when they should've had a ship of their own, and that's why I miss classic pirates, TLG, the navy deserve ships too!!!!

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Created by a small team led by designer Niels Milan Pedersen, Lego Pirates was the company's fourth theme (after Space, Castle, Town) and it was more complex.[2][3] Numerous new pieces were also created including firearms, wildlife (parrots, sharks, monkeys), and cloth sails.[4][3] Lego Pirates minifigures were the first to go beyond the traditional head with simply two dots for eyes and a smile, as many of them had a variety of different printed features including eyepatches, facial hair, and feminine makeup. Only a few minifigures in Lego Pirates used the traditional face of two eyes and a smile; the soldier/trooper of the Imperial Soldiers and Imperial Guards, the Imperial Soldiers sailor/marine (only found in 6274 Caribbean Clipper), and young pirate Bo'Sun Will.[5] Prior to the launch of Lego Pirates, minifigures were distinguished in function and organization by their torso, headgear (either a helmet or hair), and accessories, being generic roles without any specified character.

In Lego's first attempt to establish a narrative and encourage role-playing, personalities were created for several of these minifigures of Lego Pirates. Stories were printed on boxes, particularly for the USA market where the larger sets had a flap that opened up to display the contents. In a first for Lego, television ads used stop-motion animation.[3] A comic book entitled "The Gold Medallion" was also released in that year, as well as a Ladybird Book series. The storyline takes place in the 18th century, where pirates had been searching for buried treasure as the doubloons (Spanish gold coins) belonged to their ancestors, however a colony of settlers discovered the treasure first and claimed it, leading to conflict. The Governor of the colony was forced to fortify the settlements and attempted to hide the treasure in his main fortress.[5]

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