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Herberts

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Mar 20, 2012, 11:30:38 AM3/20/12
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Dear Roads Petition Member
The Ratepayers Committee are meeting this evening. The problems of through traffic is on the agenda. To keep you all informed I am sending through correspondence to date - the emails are numbered in date order. I have taken the liberty of responding to the comments by Paul Booth without consulting all of you in view of available time.
 
I think it is very important that we all concentrate on the main issue here - that is the volume of through traffic.
I know there are concerns about cars not stopping at the Anderson Rd stop street, about taxis, about noise and road rage. To me these are side issues. THE issue is traffic volume
 
I will keep you informed
 
The email below (1) is Paul Booth's response to concerns
Regards
Steve Herbert
 
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Dear Roelf,
 
I think it would be as well to respond to the points made in the mail below. See comments in red
 
Best
Steve Herbert

Dear Residents of Kalk Bay village roads

 Further to your concerns and suggestions regarding the Quarterdeck/Gatesville Roads traffic situation, and the feedback already provided to you, the City of Cape Town has investigated the matter further.  On Monday 27th February 2012 Andrew Rush (Resident Engineer), Mark Doubell and Paul Booth (City of Cape Town) monitored the northbound traffic along Gatesville Road from 3.30pm until 5.00pm.

 Paul Booth has provided the following feedback:

 “During this time we counted the northbound vehicles in periods of 5 minutes. Starting from 3.30pm to 3.35, we counted 15 vehicles. This slowly increased to a maximum of 37 vehicles per 5 minutes at 4pm and then slowly reduced again to 15 vehicles when we stopped counting at 5pm. The total number of vehicles for the 1,5 hours amounted to 360 vehicles. We assume this is accurate. There are other periods when  it becomes congested of course

 Without exception all the vehicles were driving considerately and slowly. It would depend where the observers where - they couldn't have been at the intersection of Anderson and Gatesville. It was also noted that within each five minute period the vehicles came through in platoons of between 5 and 10 vehicles with breaks of between 20 and 30 seconds, allowing south bound vehicles the opportunity to proceed south.  This is not factual. It is extremely difficult to get from one end of Gatesville to Anderson

 If one considers that the last set of traffic counts we measured in November 2011, between 3.30pm and 5 pm on Monday 28th November we counted a total of 1231 vehicles traveling north. This illustrates that only 30% of northbound vehicles in the evening peak are now using Gatesville Road to reach the Main Road. Don't understand the point being  made

 The project team believes that the original purpose for the installation of the temporary speed humps, to reduce speeds, has been successful and that the volume of traffic whilst much more than the norm is manageable.

 It is the project team’s view that the current accommodation of traffic is acceptable for the following reasons.

  1. The roads are public roads. Agreed but there are probably bye laws which make it necessary to have useable pavements for pedestrians (especially children vide the Lever St Park and the mosque) where there are narrow streets with this volume of traffic, and for fast access by emergency services
  2. The roads can accommodate the additional traffic. (The failure of a concrete panel in Quarterdeck road recently had nothing to do with the increase in traffic. It was caused by a leaking sewer which had washed out the base supporting the concrete surface) Debateable
  3. The speed humps which are not complete yet have had a positive influence in reducing traffic speeds. Agreed although they have caused a noise problem
  4. The route from the intersection of Anderson Road and Boyes Drive via Gatesville and Quarterdeck roads to the intersection of Main and Atlantic Road is over 2 km shorter than via Old Boyes Drive. Agreed
  5.    The local residents of the area wishing to go to Boyes Drive have the option of using Main Road with little or no inconvenience, thereby avoiding the   increase in northbound traffic along Gatesville road. Only the inconvenience associated with using the Main Rd - this is accepted as part of the project
  6.    The local residents wishing to go north or east can do so via Main Road if they wish. Agreed - but even people who find this convenient have signed what is referred to as the 'so called petition'  as they consider closing Gatesville to through traffic is the lesser of two evils
  7.   Patrons of the commercial district can circulate efficiently and can get to the car park opposite Holy Trinity Church via Quarterdeck Road.They can continue to do so - we are talking about stopping LEFT turns at the Rouxville and Quarterdeck
  8.  On-going efforts are being made to get the taxis to remain on Boyes Drive. It may be having an effect but on Thursday 20th at about 7.40 a.m. 3 taxis in convoy passed me heading north. When I walked back along the Main Rd at about 8.20 a.m 3 taxis drove out of Rouxville in a few minutes, heading north. In any event the taxis are probably a small part of the overall volume
  9. The current situation will only last until the Main Road is completed up to Clairvaux Road. As already mentioned Chand Newsletter 23 para 3.4.2  seems to indicates otherwise

 Regards,

 Paul Booth”

 We trust that this clarifies matters.

 Kind regards

Kim Diedericks

Chand Environmental Consultants

P O Box 238

Plumstead

7801

Tel:  (021) 762 3050

Fax: (021) 762 3240

www.chand.co.za



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Mike Elliott

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Mar 21, 2012, 4:01:16 AM3/21/12
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Thanks Steve,

 

We are happy to go along with you.

 

Regards

 

MIKE ELLIOTT

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+27 82 775 2333

mi...@fischerpanda.co.za

 

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1.    The roads are public roads. Agreed but there are probably bye laws which make it necessary to have useable pavements for pedestrians (especially children vide the Lever St Park and the mosque) where there are narrow streets with this volume of traffic, and for fast access by emergency services

  1. The roads can accommodate the additional traffic. (The failure of a concrete panel in Quarterdeck road recently had nothing to do with the increase in traffic. It was caused by a leaking sewer which had washed out the base supporting the concrete surface) Debateable
  2. The speed humps which are not complete yet have had a positive influence in reducing traffic speeds. Agreed although they have caused a noise problem
  3. The route from the intersection of Anderson Road and Boyes Drive via Gatesville and Quarterdeck roads to the intersection of Main and Atlantic Road is over 2 km shorter than via Old Boyes Drive. Agreed
  4.    The local residents of the area wishing to go to Boyes Drive have the option of using Main Road with little or no inconvenience, thereby avoiding the   increase in northbound traffic along Gatesville road. Only the inconvenience associated with using the Main Rd - this is accepted as part of the project
  5.    The local residents wishing to go north or east can do so via Main Road if they wish. Agreed - but even people who find this convenient have signed what is referred to as the 'so called petition'  as they consider closing Gatesville to through traffic is the lesser of two evils
  6.   Patrons of the commercial district can circulate efficiently and can get to the car park opposite Holy Trinity Church via Quarterdeck Road.They can continue to do so - we are talking about stopping LEFT turns at the Rouxville and Quarterdeck
  7.  On-going efforts are being made to get the taxis to remain on Boyes Drive. It may be having an effect but on Thursday 20th at about 7.40 a.m. 3 taxis in convoy passed me heading north. When I walked back along the Main Rd at about 8.20 a.m 3 taxis drove out of Rouxville in a few minutes, heading north. In any event the taxis are probably a small part of the overall volume
  8. The current situation will only last until the Main Road is completed up to Clairvaux Road. As already mentioned Chand Newsletter 23 para 3.4.2  seems to indicates otherwise

 Regards,

 Paul Booth”

We trust that this clarifies matters.

Kind regards

Kim Diedericks

Chand Environmental Consultants

P O Box 238

Plumstead

7801

Tel:  (021) 762 3050

Fax: (021) 762 3240

www.chand.co.za

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