Splits timing

[Jay]

Question in two parts: Do you provide splits timing in your race? if
you do, do you use display clocks, or do you have volunteers call out
the time as racers pass by? Clocks are easy and more racer-friendly
(they can see their times as they approach the marks, and don't have
to rely on being able to hear the volunteer to get their splits), but
volunteers are a lot less expensive (unless you have your own clocks).
Where do you think this falls, re; Andy's discussion at our meeting
about what racers have a right to expect at a road race?

Jay

[aschachat]

Most races provide split timng at each mile. Most of the smaller races use a volunteer calling out the time as runners go by. Some of the bigger races will use clocks while some will use a combination of the two.

Andy Schachat
asch...@ttlc.net
Dover, N.H.
(603)767-2518

Question in two parts: Do you provide splits timing in your race? if
you do, do you use display clocks, or do you have volunteers call out
the time as racers pass by? Clocks are easy and more racer-friendly
(they can see their times as they approach the marks, and don't have
to rely on being able to hear the volunteer to get their splits), but
volunteers are a lot less expensive (unless you have your own clocks).
Where do you think this falls, re; Andy's discussion at our meeting
about what racers have a right to expect at a road race?
Jay
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[Mike St Laurent]

Hi
I never put clocks out, or call out splits and never intend too.

With racers having all sorts of gadgets to do their own calculations, and everyone always suspecting mile markers are "off" what's the point.
Out of 9,000 runners in races last year, only one request for it
MIke

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[arlon]

So I joined this group but can't find under my Google Groups?

Anyway, back to splits timing. We gnerally don't do it at our (LOCO)races
and under the "dashed expectations" category, I don't recall a complaint.
Think of it, what's the first thing you do when you go by a clock or (more
typically) someone shouting out a split - you look at your watch and grumble
to the runner next to you that the clock is slightly off or the mile is
(pick one) long/short. These days, with GPS, we get more comments that the
course was "slightly long" and, as the USATF officials will tell you, it
porbably is - they measure the course as the perfect runner might cover it
and then, in accordance, with USATF rules, are allowed to add a small %
variation.

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[Stearns, Guy]

Hello,

Put me in the pro-split clock camp. Of course it is important that the clocks be accurate but that isn't rocket science.

When I am in a race, I know that I look for the mile clocks and glance at my watch for a backup.

We have digital clocks at mile 1, 2 and 3 in the Great Island 5K.

Guy

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[Barbara Massar]

We use clocks for the MSD 10K...have for years and plan on continuing; for
Pro Portsmouth, it's part of the cost of doing a race. Beyond that, our
runners expect it.
Barbara

Thought of something as I was reading a race description today: is it
okay/ethical to exaggerate registration numbers? So, real registration = 300
and they claim to attract over 1,000 runners...

Barbara Massar
Executive Director
Pro Portsmouth
www.proportsmouth.org
603-610-5521
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Children's Day, Market Square Day Festival and 10K Road Race, Summer in the
Street...

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[aschachat]

Barbara: Great question about numbers, no easy answer. Some races use the word "expected" as "1,000 expected to turn out."

The other question regarding numbers is how to measure size of race. No official definition for how large a race is but most use number of finishers while some use the number of entries.

Andy Schachat
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Dover, N.H.
(603)767-2518

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[Stearns, Guy]

Hi Barbara,

I am not exactly sure what you are asking but to me it is unethical to lie about your registration numbers. However, if you had 1000 people last year, it might be reasonable to say that you are expecting up to 1200 runners this year.

Guy

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