[Talk-ro] Fwd: atîta

[Rădulescu Răzvan]

Sorein s-a intors cu ale lui dejectii dintr-un creier bolnav...

Asta ca sa vada cui i-e dor de el...

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Subject:	atîta
Date:	Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:12:54 +0200
From:	cenSORINg <sor...@gmail.com>
To:	radulesc...@gmail.com

Atîta sănătate să ai tu, țigane, și atîta parte de cine și-e mai drag, după spurcăciunile pe care le debitezi! Rușine să-ți fie, porcule!

EU am impus folosirea diacritcelor pe porțiunea românească, porcule!

EU i-am speriat pe niște idioți ca tine, care desenau cîte o stradă pe fiecare sens în oraș (dublau toate străzile) și puneau pe hartă toți pomișorii și toate cotețele de găini.

Bineînțeles că, fiind niște idioți ca tine și ca ceilalți din gașca ta, ați făcut haită. Asta e lumea în care trăim și pe care voi, gloatele, o împuțiți. Gloatele se înhăitează repede, oamenii cu carte stau împrăștiați. Din cauza voastră o să crape OSM curînd.

[Jean-Baptiste Holcroft]

Please have a discussion with data working group : da...@osmfoundation.org
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes

Personal point of view :
* a private message, even rude, shouldn't copied in public mailing list,
* Romanian contributors should meet more (beer is a good start, vin
din casa, tuica or visinata is good too), face to face conversation
prevents problems.

OSM is a good community project, Romanians are very welcoming people in
a nice country, there is no reason not to be a success. Keep on fighting.

(sorry for using English, my Romanian writing is too bad)

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[Gabriel Sebastian Moise]

With some people you can't have a good conversation !

Everyone worked hard on Romanian map, but some have gone wild ! Sorein is one guy that you can't have a discussion with him !  Some of us from our group were taking his side from a point of view, but it's clear that you can't have something to discuss with this man !  DWG tried and no success !

Now we are "two teams"  in Romanian editors ! One that using "old stuff, or old point of view"  and one team who maintain the map updated, and made some small changes to the road structure in a couple of cases because of routing purposes .  Romanian road network infrastructure is not the same like in central and western europe ( and we made some adjustments), and there are a lot of National and County roads that are not paved at all, or not well. We've downgraded the category, without damaging the routing , because all the routing software does not calculate the route with the quality of paving, and all of them are set default to route on unpaved roads. More than 80% of users, does not configure the routing parameters in navigation software, so we've prevented the high routing priority on that roads !

In words is difficult to understand the scenarious.... but when we meet and show the roads, the alternatives, and made some tests, all people will understand !   OSM uses 6 road category for main routing, Here 4 road category for main routing, TomTom just 3 ! Some navigation software does not want to adjust routing engine for the 6 road category like in OSM !   IMHO , in OSM there are to many  :D    !!!

For example,  Braila City.... all the streest in that city were Tertiary or Secondary for a many years !  I was the only one that I've corrected that , because like I said, no one is maintaing the map , but some of us, are just talking most of the time, agains me and Razvan , and nothing new on the map from them , they are not helping , somehow it's like they are against us, agains off all the work done in Romanian map, made by all of us !

Maybe there is a problem because me and Razvan are working with and for Here Maps , and we are using their resources to gather and collect data for our map ! We are making a double job, one for Here Maps, and one for OpenStreetMap !

Razvan every day look into the history to check if someone is deleting relevant data, or by mistake , does something wrong, we are looking for CLC problems, and examples can go on !  How many of us in talk group are doing the same ?!?!?!

Now, if a couple of years ago, OSM was a Geographic Book ( Atlas Geografic) for a lot of people, now the main purpose is Routing Navigation, finding places, etc....   Now OSM is more than, what some of us are thinking !

Have a good day !

2016-03-18 15:04 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft [via GIS] <[hidden email]>:

Please have a discussion with data working group : [hidden email]

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