Should I wait for river6?

[Hanan Cohen]

Hi,

I am developing a public aggregator based on river5 for Israeli blogs - in Hebrew.

Work in progress is here http://www.blogim.club/

Since river6 seems to be around the corner, I wonder if it would be better for me to wait for river6.

Apart from the backend, are there any substantial changes in the frontend?

Also, is there a plan to generate an RSS feed per river? The current site, based on a PHP platform (https://blogim.info/) publishes an RSS which is read by a bot that publishes the feed to twitter (https://twitter.com/blogim_info) and I want to have the same functionality in the new site. I have found the code to do that but I am not such a great developer and would rather get it "out of the box" - https://gist.github.com/daveajones/be26f5ca9cb7559d0c33549b53323770

Thanks Dave!

Hanan Cohen

[Dave Winer]

First, I'm glad to hear you're building a public aggregator for Israeli blogs. Let me know when you're reading for people to come and I'll post a note on my blog.

Okay -- now to advice re River6.

1. I never recommend waiting, and I also place a strong emphasis on moving forward with compatibility. A River5 installation can be converted to River6 very quickly. It's just a matter of setting up MySQL, and then copying the lists folder from the river5 folder to the river6 folder. Then there's a variable amount of waiting for the river to fill up, but that's something the software does on its own. 

2. Al the changes are visible in the front end in river6.scripting.com and podcatch.com, both of which are the new river browser. However it could just as easily be displaying rivers produced by River5. As far as I know there are no changes to that format between 5 and 6 (any that are present are bugs).

3. I have several rivers that are mirrored to Twitter feeds, using a Node-based utility that I wrote called riverToTweets. It's been running smoothly for years. 

https://github.com/scripting/riverToTweets

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[Anton Zuiker]

Dave, re advice #1 below, is River6 available to us? I'm eager to convert and upgrade. I have a good empty week to update the Duke River of News (and Fargo, etc.)

I'll start with updating the new river browser using my River5 rivers as you recommend in #2.

Anton

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 11:48:28 AM UTC-4, Dave Winer wrote:

First, I'm glad to hear you're building a public aggregator for Israeli blogs. Let me know when you're reading for people to come and I'll post a note on my blog.

Okay -- now to advice re River6.

1. I never recommend waiting, and I also place a strong emphasis on moving forward with compatibility. A River5 installation can be converted to River6 very quickly. It's just a matter of setting up MySQL, and then copying the lists folder from the river5 folder to the river6 folder. Then there's a variable amount of waiting for the river to fill up, but that's something the software does on its own. 

2. Al the changes are visible in the front end in river6.scripting.com and podcatch.com, both of which are the new river browser. However it could just as easily be displaying rivers produced by River5. As far as I know there are no changes to that format between 5 and 6 (any that are present are bugs).

3. I have several rivers that are mirrored to Twitter feeds, using a Node-based utility that I wrote called riverToTweets. It's been running smoothly for years. 

https://github.com/scripting/riverToTweets

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 6:18 AM Hanan Cohen <hanan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I am developing a public aggregator based on river5 for Israeli blogs - in Hebrew.

Work in progress is here http://www.blogim.club/

Since river6 seems to be around the corner, I wonder if it would be better for me to wait for river6.

Apart from the backend, are there any substantial changes in the frontend?

Also, is there a plan to generate an RSS feed per river? The current site, based on a PHP platform (https://blogim.info/) publishes an RSS which is read by a bot that publishes the feed to twitter (https://twitter.com/blogim_info) and I want to have the same functionality in the new site. I have found the code to do that but I am not such a great developer and would rather get it "out of the box" - https://gist.github.com/daveajones/be26f5ca9cb7559d0c33549b53323770

Thanks Dave!

Hanan Cohen

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[Dave Winer]

Hi Anton. Good to hear from you..

River6 is not shipping, nor is the new browser. None of it is ready for you to deploy yet. I'm doing this work carefully, more carefully than in the past.

When is your open week?

Dave

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:49 AM Anton Zuiker <zui...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dave, re advice #1 below, is River6 available to us? I'm eager to convert and upgrade. I have a good empty week to update the Duke River of News (and Fargo, etc.)

I'll start with updating the new river browser using my River5 rivers as you recommend in #2.

Anton

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 11:48:28 AM UTC-4, Dave Winer wrote:

First, I'm glad to hear you're building a public aggregator for Israeli blogs. Let me know when you're reading for people to come and I'll post a note on my blog.

Okay -- now to advice re River6.

1. I never recommend waiting, and I also place a strong emphasis on moving forward with compatibility. A River5 installation can be converted to River6 very quickly. It's just a matter of setting up MySQL, and then copying the lists folder from the river5 folder to the river6 folder. Then there's a variable amount of waiting for the river to fill up, but that's something the software does on its own. 

2. Al the changes are visible in the front end in river6.scripting.com and podcatch.com, both of which are the new river browser. However it could just as easily be displaying rivers produced by River5. As far as I know there are no changes to that format between 5 and 6 (any that are present are bugs).

3. I have several rivers that are mirrored to Twitter feeds, using a Node-based utility that I wrote called riverToTweets. It's been running smoothly for years. 

https://github.com/scripting/riverToTweets

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 6:18 AM Hanan Cohen <hanan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I am developing a public aggregator based on river5 for Israeli blogs - in Hebrew.

Work in progress is here http://www.blogim.club/

Since river6 seems to be around the corner, I wonder if it would be better for me to wait for river6.

Apart from the backend, are there any substantial changes in the frontend?

Also, is there a plan to generate an RSS feed per river? The current site, based on a PHP platform (https://blogim.info/) publishes an RSS which is read by a bot that publishes the feed to twitter (https://twitter.com/blogim_info) and I want to have the same functionality in the new site. I have found the code to do that but I am not such a great developer and would rather get it "out of the box" - https://gist.github.com/daveajones/be26f5ca9cb7559d0c33549b53323770

Thanks Dave!

Hanan Cohen

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[Anton Zuiker]

Sorry for the delay (laptop issues) and thanks for the clarification.

The next two weeks look to be slow at work, with time for me to focus on the river. I'm happy to help test River6 (or anything else).

Anton

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